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WOODWARD: Yeah, we don’t want to make this a debate. If you have information to <br />present to the Commission, that’s fine; but we don’t have to have a fist fight here. <br />IWASHITA: Point of order, Mr. Chair? <br />WOODWARD: Yes, sir, Mr. Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA: My understanding is the parties under the contested case hearing <br />procedures have the right to cross-examine a witness; and in this case I take it the Director is <br />testifying. So any questions at this point in my mind should be directed at the Director. <br />WOODWARD: I think if there are questions that’s fine. But what we heard just now were <br />not questions. <br />IWASHITA: I understand but basically what we have is a discourse going between the <br />parties. <br />WOODWARD: Right. <br />IWASHITA: Or two of the parties and -. <br />WOODWARD: Exactly. And, again, we are not here to answer questions. We are here to <br />hear testimony. And in any contested case the Planning Director is a participant. So if you have <br />questions, they need to be directed to the Planning Director. <br />IWASHITA: Mr. Chair? <br />WOODWARD: Yes, sir. <br />IWASHITA: I do have questions for the Director. Thank you. Well, first, a procedural <br />matter. I guess just as a matter of record could we have the Paradise Park Master Plan part of the <br />record? Is that a document -? <br />WOODWARD: Right. I was about ready to get to that. We have two things that you <br />th <br />asked to be admitted in testimony. One is the August 26 letter from the Hawaiian Paradise Park <br />Owners Association, the other is the email from Mr. Kaiser. <br />IWASHITA: Yes. <br />WOODWARD: Does anybody, including the intervenor, or the applicant, or any of the <br />Commissioners, have any problem with admitting that? <br />CAMPBELL: I object to the email because it’s excerpts from a meeting. So the entirety <br />of the meeting should be introduced as an evidence instead of excerpts from the meeting. <br />WOODWARD: Anybody have a response to that? Mr. Kaiser? <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />21 <br /> <br />