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kind of dry and I donÓt see anything. But if you sit down at the shoreline, which by the way is a <br />marine preserve, the on-shore and off-shore area; and, additionally, may I add that the park <br />extends 600 acres into the ocean because Hawaiians lived that way, caring for the aina mauka to <br />makai, heavens to the sea. This is a living area. YouÓll note the quiet of the area and the <br />spiritualness of the area. If you have any questions, IÓd be happy to answer them. <br /> <br />WOODWARD: Thank you very much. Commissioner Domingo. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: There are other living areas of similar significance throughout the island, <br />especially along the coast of Kona, arenÓt there? <br /> <br />CHUN: Yes, I believe we should save all of them when we can. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: Very good. When was the Jacoby Development proposed? <br /> <br />CHUN: LetÓs see -. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: You have any idea what year? <br /> <br />CHUN: No, I donÓt. I am aware that the lease was cancelled sometime this past <br />year with DLNR, and I think sometime in 2009 with Department of Hawaiian Home Lands. I <br />donÓt know when it was originally presented to, you know, with its development plans presented. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: I see. Thank you. <br /> <br />WOODWARD: Okay, Commissioner Ishibashi. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you all for your manao. <br />being, vigilantly guarding the Honokohau. I remember, cause my family come from Milolii. I <br />remember going to Honokohau and never have road, never had anything. And we parked and <br />walked in; and weÓd spend the weekend with my grandfather, and walked all along the places in <br />there. <br /> <br />CHUN: IÓm sure your grandfather must have testified then because in 1972 or <br />thereabouts after many trips to Congress a Federal Commission, Study Advisory Commission, <br />was organized with 14 native Hawaiians and they went to every island, and different <br />communities on the islands, to speak with descendents of the are <br />who practiced these traditions that were known to be practiced at Honokohau; and IÓm sure your <br />kupuna must have been present because there were so many, and many tears. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: That was back in Ó68 when we used to walk in there, so that was quite a <br />while back. But, no, I appreciate that and -. <br /> <br />CHUN: You must have helped to get to that point of 1978 and the creation of the <br />Park. <br /> <br />10 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />