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DOMINGO: Yeah, Mr. Chairman. <br /> <br />WOODWARD: Commissioner Domingo. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: Sir, the lands that are being considered here for changing, does it belong to <br />the State of Hawaii? <br />MOORE: Yes, it does. <br />DOMINGO: So what are the plans, future plans, of the State with regards to the use of <br />these lands? <br />MOORE: Well, there had been an agreement in place which was cancelled by the <br />Land Board earlier this year, that was with the Jacoby Group for the development of that area. <br />So that contract has been cancelled. To the extent that youÓre asking about future plans, IÓm not <br />really in a position to answer that because the planning for the DepartmentÓs, you know, projec <br />especially commercial projects in that area, come out of our central office. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: So the agreement with the Jacoby Group was a lease of those properties <br />for development by them? <br /> <br />MOORE: Correct. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: Not the sale of lands? <br /> <br />MOORE: Correct. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: I see. So what youÓre saying is that you folks should have been included <br />with this kind of deliberation leading to this change before us? <br /> <br />MOORE: Right, thatÓs our position. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: Is it a matter because of pride has been hurt or you guys just were left out? <br /> <br />MOORE: No. I think the StateÓs entitled to due process, just like an ordinary citizen. <br />I think the State had plans for its property. And to find out that a law suit that does involve the <br />State is changing the very nature of what the State can do with that property is significant to the <br />State. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: You know, IÓm reminded on two occasions when Governor Lingle was <br />inaugurated into office. The first speech that she made was let us not make the selling of our <br />lands an industry, I guess, interpreting that so that no developments come in and the density of <br />our islands are increased thereby probably causing more demands for improvements and the <br />State and the County having have to foot the bill. And she made that same remark in the second <br />inaugural speech, let us not make selling of our lands an industry. I think the DLNR didnÓt get <br />5 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />