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mother would allow me to go with my cousins. And I remember going to this property,
<br />this lot, I guess they call it 75-1930, but IÓve always known it as Mrs. ParkerÓs property.
<br />And we used to walk along the beach, go fishing and getting those little tsubus and stuff.
<br />And weÓd go into the property, which is all bush-grown and whate
<br />a grave; and we knew it was a grave because it was rocks all around it, like the old
<br />Hawaiian graves, just rocks around it and dirt-filled center. So we would go, and
<br />whenever weÓd go through the area we go to the graves and whatever flowers were in
<br />Kailua, which didnÓt, like the hibiscus, that we could pick along the way weÓd go and
<br />offer flowers as little kids doing that. So I, my parents still own that piece or owned that
<br />piece, 75-6000, which is right on the roadside of Alii Drive, which is now mine; and we
<br />live there part-time. You know, when we want to get away from the top, we go down to
<br />the beach and we go fishing; and we call it our beach home. So we fish, and we fish
<br />along the shorelines and we get -. So I get the opihis, and the tsubus, and the aama crabs;
<br />and I still continue to do that there.
<br />And when I was at Sea Village one day going through them to go f
<br />telling me about this building thatÓs coming up, thatÓs -. The first thing that had come out
<br />of my mouth is what about the grave? And they said what grave? And I says, well, there
<br />was a grave there. Unless someone removed the grave, it should
<br />remember, my Dad passed away in 1994 and prior to his death, I k
<br />the former owners and he always told her, you should intern that grave, take that grave
<br />away from there. She says, no, I want that grave, I want that grave on my property. So,
<br />you know, Dad has lived there since, what, Ò40s, I guess. And, so, we all knew about the
<br />grave. Whose grave it was, we donÓt know. In the Ò50s, it looked like a very old grave.
<br />So, you know, there were the Hawaiian families living there year
<br />around. So it could be a child, it could be an adult, we donÓt know; but just out of respect
<br />as a child we did that.
<br />And till today, we do go fishing in that area. And IÓm just afraid that if we, if you put
<br />something like that up there, itÓs going to take away -. Right now, as I went to their
<br />condo yesterday for the first time and looked out, the area is already graded. So, and I
<br />went to look to see where the grave was Òcause I could kind of remember where it was,
<br />the big kiawe tree is gone, itÓs chopped. Its stump is like, it was so big, and I says thatÓs
<br />where the grave was. So I walked down to it but I couldnÓt find
<br />that the ground has been graded. So I donÓt know if theyÓre still there, or they graded
<br />over it, or it could be under those big boulders, Òcause itÓs very nearby.
<br />But if theyÓre going to build there and do beaches and different things, then thatÓs going
<br />to take away from people using the shoreline. And there are a lot of people besides
<br />myself I see down there getting their opihis and different things from the sea that we still
<br />like to do here in HawaiÒi.
<br />FUJIKAWA:Is there any question from the Commissioners to this testifier? Go
<br />ahead, Mr. Graham.
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