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TANIMOTO: Thank you very much. I do have one question I’d like to ask for the <br />Planning Director, and that is the Cablevision company put a manhole in what is known as the <br />Kawaihae pond. It is in a flood zone, but there is a manhole on the side of the highway that they <br />got a grading permit for. How can things like that happen? <br />WATANABE: I’m not sure. Are you able to respond, Mr. Yuen? <br />YUEN: No, I can’t answer that. That really is not something that the Planning <br />Department would be involved in. <br />TANIMOTO: Doesn’t the Planning Department give a grading permit, no? <br />YUEN: No. Department of Public Works gives grading permits. <br />TANIMOTO: Oh, thank you. <br />WATANABE: Okay? Okay, thank you very much. <br />The testimony ended at 11:30 a.m. <br /> Respectfully submitted, <br /> Noriko Sauer, West Hawaii Secretary <br />EXHIBIT C <br />4 <br />