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GRAHAM: Yeah, I think I understand that. And the only thing that is kind of <br />coming to me, like I live in the Ag district and I know they built a big wind energy <br />facility in North Kohala. If there’s no Use Permit required in the Ag district, I guess <br />subject to the setbacks a guy right next door to me who might be only 50 yards away <br />could build a great big wind turbine and that’s that, I have no say about it. But in the <br />Open zoned district there will be a Use Permit so that the neighbors and all can speak to it <br />a little bit. So that’s why you may be putting it in the Use Permit, huh? <br />HAYASHI: That’s correct. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. Commissioner Woodward? <br />WOODWARD: I might just share a story that I shared with Mr. Darrow earlier. It <br />was just about wind energy in general because I’m sure any of you that have driven by <br />South Point recently have seen those huge, there’s 14 huge windmills that they put up <br />there, 300 feet tall with 90-foot blades on them. And at the most recent Chamber of <br />Commerce meetings one of the board members asked me, well, did that have to go <br />through the Planning Department? So I called Norm and he said, no, first of all it’s built <br />on Hawaiian Home lands, so they didn’t require anything; but even if it had been on <br />Agricultural land it would have been a permitted use. So then I was curious. I said, well, <br />’cause some people think, well, they’re kind of nice, some people think it’s an eyesore. <br />But the question was how much power do these things really put out? They got 14 big, <br />really big, windmills. And I talked to a few people and I looked into it, and I was <br />thinking half a percent maybe of the State power grid. It turns out it’s more like almost <br />10 percent. These 14 windmills can supply 10,000 homes with power, just 14 of them. <br />That blew me away, so to speak, to use the wind analogy. But, anyway, now I’m a <br />believer. You know, I thought, well, they’re just tinkering around and this really is not <br />the solution to the problem. You know, it’s like solar energy which does some good but <br />it’s never going to, you know, take care of our reliance on oil. But this has much more <br />potential. So I just wanted to share that with you. It turns out that these things, like I say, <br />just these 14 windmills supplies between 7 and 10 percent of the power grid for the State <br />of Hawaii right now. <br />GRAHAM: You mean the State or the County? <br />WOODWARD: I mean the County, excuse me, the County, yeah. <br />DOMINGO: Mr. Chairman? <br />GRAHAM: Yes, Commissioner Domingo. <br />DOMINGO: Norman, under the Agricultural designation, you know, I often <br />hear a Use Permit is required and/or a Special Permit. What are the differences and what <br />are the implications of a Use Permit and a Special Permit, when you look at both of <br />them? <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />3 <br /> <br />