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population of the islands, and particularly here on the Big Island and the at-risk population. That’s what we’ve done for 60 years in the State of California. So I just wanted that to be kind of laid, you understand who I am, where my heart is at and what are intentions are. Thank you. ALAMEDA:Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay? All right, you can be seated at this time and we can go into testimony. All right. We have a lot of testifiers today. We have 19, 20 testifiers. So, because of that, I’d like to ask that you be brief, to the point, and if you can limit your testimony to three minutes. Commissioner Galdones? GALDONES:Mr. Chair, thank you. In consideration of the Petition for Standing in a Contested Case Hearing, if it pleases the Chair, perhaps we should address whether the petitions do have standing. ALAMEDA:Mr. Torigoe? TORIGOE:Yeah. We were just kind of looking at the rules and it seems like we should allow for the testimony before we go to that; and the public testimony may actually, some of them may actually address some of the standing issues as well. ALAMEDA:Commissioner Galdones? GALDONES:Well, if that is what the rules say then we have rules to follow. But where I was coming from is that I wanted those who were going to be making testimony understand and realize whether there will be a Contested Case Hearing, and they may want to reserve their comments for the Contested Case Hearing before the Hearings Officer, who will make a recommendation based on those testimonies. That is where I was coming from. But if the rules provide that the public testimony precedes the Petition for a Contested Case Hearing, then so be it. ALAMEDA:Mr. Torigoe? TORIGOE:Yeah, I think that’s basically how the rules read, although, you know, the point is well taken that the public should be informed that if there is standing granted to the proposed Intervenors there will be a formal Contested Case; and at every meeting on the Contested Case, there will also be an opportunity for public testimony. So bear that in mind. Thank you. ALAMEDA:Okay. So the public, so testifiers, you’re hearing our discussion. So there is a possibility that this, that you may be testifying again if you so choose, if we as a Commission grant the Intervenor Standing in a Contested Case. So that being said, again, I’d like to limit the testimony to three minutes. And some of you we’ve actually received letters from, so I ask that you not read your letter. If you could just state kind of your feelings toward the application, we’d appreciate that. Okay, let me call on Mark Grandoni, forgive me if I mispronounce your names, Mike Isaacs, and -. I have several names here but then I have a little quotation, “Give my time to Lani EXHIBIT A 5