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SPRINGER:Mr. Ibbetson can we return to the topic of the standing? IBBETSON:All right. As far as his standing is concerned. First of all I would like to see evidence that his relatives are buried there, number one. If this is-, and not only that I do feel that the church-. The other thing Id like to see is whether or not the paperwork that he has and the document he is presently holding are genuine documents, Im going to have to go through that. And then as far as anything more it just seems to me that this is an issue between the individuals Dean and the church. And what the church did may very well have been wrong God knows but I had nothing to do with it. And whether I operate a small 2- bedroom B & B or not seems to be of little consequence. I dont see how thats going to have any impact upon his present situation and his dealings with the church. I just dont. SPRINGER:So sir with regard to Mr. Kaiawes Petition for Standing you would, your comment would be for denial? IBBETSON:Oh absolutely. SPRINGER:Thank you. Mr. Matsukawa? MATSUKAWA:I had some comments but they go to the merits and not to standing so Ill stay silent. SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Matsukawa. Mr. Yuen? YUEN:My recommendation would be that the Commission grant standing. Thattheintervenorhasshownthatheis,hasaninterestinthispropertydifferentthanthatof the general public in that the property was originally granted by his family member for the purpose of a cemetery and that he has family members buried on the site. SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Yuen. Commissioners do you have any questions at this time? Were on the matter of whether or not to grant standing to the Petitioner Dean Kaiawe. ALAMEDA:Madam Chair? SPRINGER:Commissioner Alameda? ALAMEDA:Excuse me I just wanted to know if, will the question of outsourcing become an issue or is that already an assumption? SPRINGER:Thats the next question. But the first question is whether or not to grant standing. ALAMEDA:Okay. EXHIBIT E 15