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over they cant ride their bicycles over there unless they make some kind of cut through. So, with the kind of good planning process that we learned about and I think we all kind of know in our minds is you want to have some kind of a grid. So that people can go from one place to another and not always have to run out to the highway. So I think its excessive to ask this applicant for his agricultural rezoning to make County paved roadways through his place. But I do feel like he should make a public access to take these other side roads which already exists and which would be sort of dead-ended by his property. I think he should make an easement available to the County so that at the Countys expense or somebody elses expense in the future there can be a continuation or flow so everybody doesnt have to run to the highway all the time to get anywhere. Anyway, I reckon as were only making a recommendation here and the County Council will decide on this issue but I think its very important and I think that whole area of Waimea, whatever we can do to bring about some lateral flow in the subdivisions would be very good. And Im disappointed that the Planning Department is willing to have these things kind of stub out the way they are in this application. SPRINGER:Mr.YuencouldyourespondtoMr.Grahamscomment. YUEN:Allthosearereallyvalidpoints.Ifthiswere,iftheGeneralPlanfor this area-. Better to look at the map on the left. And you see the subject property with the red dot and then you see the blue area between the 2 green areas right now thats all open fields. And in the General Plan its important agricultural land. If it-, on the lower part and some extensive on the part. If we were looking at the General Plan as this at being an urban area in the future with residential neighborhoods we surely would-, even if this were, even if this project were still coming in with 4-acre lots or 5-acre lots. We would still insist upon cross street connection across this property, perhaps by way as you suggest of easement rather than by constructing it at this time. Im not opposed to having a-, requiring a reservation of a street for the Hauhoa Street extension, which is a lower street. The upper street I do believe that it hits a gully and you wouldnt be able to get across there feasibly you wouldnt be able to build something across there feasibly. Im not 100% sure of that but thats from what I see on the topographic maps and what Ive looked at on the ground there. And Id also, Id like to see what comments the applicant has on that. I think what youre saying is valid. Its less important because this is likely you know if we, if there is further development in this area its likely to be very low density rather than a residential kind of density. But I think it has merit the idea of extending at least of having a road reserve for at least Hauhoa Street that if there is rezoning or subdivision of the lots in between then those can also have access into the subdivision and create more of a grid above the main highway there. SPRINGER:Thank you Mr. Yuen. Mr. Inaba do you have any response to Commissioner Graham and Director Yuens comments? INABA, J.:Theyre talking about the Jardine area, providing a road reserve across here. Hes saying that the adjoining property has access already from Mamalahoa Highway. SPRINGER:Im sorry could you repeat that please? INABA, J:Mr. Inaba says that the adjoining lot has access-. EXHIBIT F 17