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GIFFIN: And what is the timetable in relationship to the subject property? <br />LIM: For that particular project, we have a Planned Unit Development application in also and we <br />have to get that approved, then after that I think we will go with the subdivision application notice Î <br />I estimate a year and half to two years for the issuance of final subdivision approval. <br />HOUSEL: Any more? Okay. Mr. Lim, I had one other question. As you are aware, the Kona <br />Community Development Plan has set a preference, as this is not in a TOD but itÓs and what would <br />be called the TND, and the conventional rezoning that you are requesting is an alternative to the <br />TND. Did you consider a TND? <br />LIM: We discussed it briefly with the Director, but we felt that because we didnÓt have the <br />minimum size that itÓs very difficult to plan these TNDÓs or TODÓs. A lot of the TND and TOD <br />concepts, at least as I understand them, are intended to be these complex concentrated urban <br />developments that they will have some urban core where youÓve got commercial retail, you get, you <br />know, the more residential out further and less dense residential and some greenbelt on the outside. <br />And you really canÓt do that unless youÓve got a large project, like, the County heads the plan that <br />you guys had had review, the Honokhau Village TOD, something like that where youÓve got, you <br />know, a significant amount of acreage and itÓs located along one of the transit lines that are planned, <br />because that was the whole intent, at least as I understand, of the TND. And the TOD was this <br />Transit-Oriented Development where you would have the buses or mor whatever else in <br />the future, and you plan these big urban projects. And this is just not appropriate for that. <br />HOUSEL: Now, you know, and IÓm referring to the letter from the Land Use Commission <br />regarding these four parcels, which are apparently individually owned but have a lot of thing in <br />common, that could potentially be considered a TND; there is a large enough, there is 60 acres in <br />that total area there that youÓve, you know, you obviously with connecting roads to adjacen <br />properties, youÓre doing some cooperative efforts, that maybe you would consider working with the <br />other owners to develop a TND per the Kona CDP. <br />LIM: ThatÓs, one of the issues that the smaller developers like this one have is you really donÓt <br />have the ability to work with some of the other developers because we donÓt know what their timing <br />is, and there is obviously the infrastructure cost issues. So, as - (interrupted by a comment from the <br />public). <br />HOUSEL: Please continue. Sorry. <br />LIM: So I guess, in short, no, we feel like the project was a small project and we could not do that <br />with the other developers. We didnÓt even know they were going to be coming up at the same time <br />as we were. <br />HOUSEL: Well, I participated in the Kona CDP, and I think the general intent was to do planned <br />development for our community, and that everyone, all landowners and everyone was encouraged <br />to, you know, cooperate together to do mass planning and instead of piece-meal planning. So I <br />would certainly encourage everyone to try to cooperate together and maybe coordinate their <br />schedules, I realize that itÓs not practical for everyone to do that but, do the best they could to try to <br />meet the intention of the Kona CDP. <br />12 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />