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GRAHAM:Please. <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Saunders? <br />SAUNDERS:With Mr. Rechtman€s help, we are cautiously putting out feelers to <br />see if we can find entities that would responsibly take care of that property. We haven€t <br />found them yet, we€re just in the early stages of that. But I, too, think there€s a wonderful <br />opportunity to do something with that site. What it might end up being, I don€t know yet. <br />I think a big key is to find an organization that has a track record of taking care of those <br />types of properties. It€s very special. We have no interest in owning it forever. If we <br />could find such an entity, we would be willing to long-term lease it, a dollar a year or <br />potentially even, you know, signing it off manuwahi. It€s something that we have to <br />determine. So, I don€t think we want to get into it at this meeting; but if people have <br />thoughtsonwhothoseentitiesmightbe,we€dbeveryinterestedtohear,eitherdirect <br />them to myself or Dr. Rechtman. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, Mr. Saunders. Commissioner Graham, any follow-up? <br />GRAHAM:Does Dr. Rechtman have a sense that this particular area, these two <br />parcels, as far as the significance to the Hawaiian community might be an area where the <br />community would like further active involvement and actually cleaning, restoring, and <br />making these sites more alive rather than just sequestered out of development? <br />RECHTMAN:The answer is yes and no. There are burial sites in here and in <br />Hawaiian community. Those sites, people tend to want those sites to be out of the public <br />eye. There are other sites in here that are non-burial sites which could lend themselves to <br />some sort of interpretive development. We are actively looking for a group, whether it€s <br />a Kona-based local group or perhaps a larger group. There are stewardship organizations <br />that take on properties like this. The answer is yes. I think this could be a property that <br />could provide the public with sort of an avenue of education and understanding for its <br />resources, given that we keep the burial sites sort of out of the public eye. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you. I certainly recognize everyone€s thoughts on the <br />subject here, and I appreciate that. I guess when I was first thinking about it, I was <br />thinking maybe this could be similar to what Chalon did in North Kohala where the <br />developer might allocate a fund to be used for equipment work that might come in and <br />remove kiawe trees, or things like that if, in fact, this were to move forward. But maybe <br />it€s not so clear that this project wants to be bothered with actively. <br />SAUNDERS:No, I think it€s a good idea. The difference is in the case of Kukui <br />Pahu, there were, they are descendants. There are people who are of that land who the <br />developer worked with directly; and the Kona picture is broader. There are more <br />individuals involved in descendency in the Kona area; and it€s not such a clear-cut picture <br />of who you work with in developing treatment and long-term preservation plans with, as <br />it was in the Kukui Pahu case. <br />18 <br /> <br />