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SPRINGER:Mr. Chair? <br />FUJIKAWA:Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, Mr. Chair. If I may comment on the discussion. Past <br />practice is not always best practice. And the Planning Director exercising discretion <br />asking for a sequential approach to these requests rather than a concurrent approach, I <br />believe, has merit for the reasons that he has cited, given the scale and scope of the two <br />proposals before us. <br />FUJIKAWA:Thank you. Commissioner Graham? <br />GRAHAM:I wasnÓt sure if itÓs the time to do this discussion but it seems like <br />itÓs what weÓre discussing right now. My sense is both for the benefit of the Commission <br />and particularly for the benefit of the public. If weÓre going to be granting an SMA <br />Permit which has a number of considerations and concerns that one considers when doing <br />an SMA Permit, weÓd like to have the public hear what the project is truly going to be so <br />that their testimony can be related to what the project is truly going to be. And I think <br />what the Planning Director is saying is we donÓt really know what the final project is <br />going to be, so the public doesnÓt have an opportunity if we do a SMA right now to <br />comment on what the final project would be. And then in other instances where a project <br />has changed markedly in the past, one example might be the KkiÒo project where it was <br />originally scheduled to be an intermediate resort area with a couple of hotels and was <br />granted an SMA Permit that the people came and testified about back in the late Ò80s. <br />That project is very much turned around and somewhat reduced in scale; and the <br />Planning Director Goldstein determined that it was not necessary to do a new SMA <br />Permit just because of her feeling that the impacts would lesser. But, still, what that <br />meant was the public never had a chance to come and testify on the actual project thatÓs <br />been built at the KkiÒo as far as the SMA concerns. And, so, it sort of parallels this <br />situation here. If we approved an SMA of something which is not particularly close to <br />whatÓs going to be finally approved, youÓre always going to have the public not really <br />dealing with the true information at the SMA Permit level. So thatÓs my feeling on it. <br />KUBOTA:I, I -. <br />FUJIKAWA:Go head, Commissioner. <br />KUBOTA:Mr. Chairman, I guess what I cannot, what I cannot accept is that <br />we sit here and say that this is not whatÓs truly going to happen or what truly is going to <br />happen. I mean, the Applicant submitted something that was a pl <br />we sit here and say this is not going to happen? I mean, isnÓt that, in essence, what weÓre <br />saying, because we both think this is whatÓs going to happen, the SMA Permit doesnÓt <br />reflect the use? <br />FUJIKAWA:Director Yuen? <br />6 <br /> <br />