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OGATA:Can someone give me a better idea of how this hobby garden operates? I
<br />mean do people just drive by and, or how much do they pay, or -?
<br />TOM:Yeah, it’s a very inexpensive thing, $3 for the children, $5 for the adult.
<br />It’s very down to earth, grassroots, small kind. You know, Mr. Lum is actually from Fuji and so
<br />he has the real local kind, you know, down, because he’s trying to help the keikis. That’s his
<br />main thing. They lead me -. We have talked and I said, hey, cannot make money, Johnson, on
<br />this kind stuff. Let’s face it, when you have a business thing, bottom line you’re going to look,
<br />hey, can make money. He has put in a lot of investment, a lot of blood, sweat and tears on
<br />building the stuff, as you’ve probably seen, you know, because I was there with him. But as far
<br />as the, big money, yeah, you know, he probably would never get his investment back, so, as a
<br />business. Did I answer that question somewhat?
<br />OGATA:Yes.
<br />TOM:Yeah, and so it’s very feasible. And the kids of love it. You know, we
<br />have plenty kind pictures of -. Kamehameha High School, their preschool all loved it. Yeah,
<br />they endorsed it because something for them. And, again, you know, the Fridays coming up, the
<br />kids gotta get some place to go, or they’re going bakaloose, you know, kolohe, yeah, you know.
<br />That’s kind of my answer. I hope that helps.
<br />WOODWARD:All right, thank you, Mr. Tom. Commissioner, was it, Iwashita, you had a
<br />question?
<br />IWASHITA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess I, first, if the Commission were inclined to
<br />grant the application, what kind of conditions would be involved?
<br />LEITHEAD TODD:If we were inclined to approve this I think we would have conditions that
<br />would say that, first, it would say that they have to comply with all of the stated conditions;
<br />construction of the proposed development and related improvements should be completed within
<br />five (5) years, our standard thing and which really isn’t an issue since he has it already;
<br />driveways will be 20 feet wide to accommodate emergency vehicles; ADA parking stall should
<br />be paved; landscaping shall also be indicated on the plans in accordance with our Planning Rule
<br />No. 17, and also for the standards for a Village Commercial zone adjoining a Single-Family
<br />Residence so that there’s some screening between the properties next door; preference for native
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<br />species to be utilized; no parking to be allowed on 12 Avenue; vehicles shall not be allowed
<br />direct access into the parking lots, which his plan has already shown that he has taken care of;
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<br />and, nor would vehicles be allowed to back onto 12 from the subject property, we would have
<br />them come out with their front end so that they can have clear visibility and see what they’re
<br />doing; we would want the applicant to secure and finalize all building permits for all existing
<br />structures with Public Works within six (6) months of the effective date of this permit; hours of
<br />operation be limited to 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., Wednesday through Sunday, you know, and that
<br />one you could have some discussion with the operator on that whether that was appropriate; all
<br />development-generated runoff to be disposed of on site; drainage study to be prepared and
<br />submitted to Department of Public Works; and any drainage improvements, if required, to meet
<br />with the approval of DPW; a Solid Waste Management Plan which is basically if, you know, you
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