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YUEN:If I could make one comment on the evolution of the canoe hlau. This <br />actually got moved -, the planning changed. I talked to Angel about this, and he said that his <br />concept was that this was actually a storage area for a double-hulled canoe, something not as <br />` <br />big as a Hklea but, you know, a sizable double-hulled canoe that would not actually be <br />launched from Kohanaiki but would be stored there and then trailered to Honokhau and <br />launched. And when I heard that and talked to the developer about it, then the idea came of, <br />well, it ought to be near the roadway where it could be launched from. This -, so that was -, <br />so that was the concept that came, when that concept came from Angel, that's why it moved <br />from that particular site, which is the best launching site, but not a particularly good site to <br />store something like that. That doesn't preclude having a launch area in the future. <br />I do think though what the developer is committed to is building a storage area, and then at a <br />later date, if and when this becomes a public park, there can be a canoe launching area at the <br />southern location. That can be simply a park facility. But that's why it got moved, and I just <br />wanted to clear that up for the record that they weren't asking to move it because -, to get it <br />away from their beach facility. It was simply to be nearer a hard surface and, also, in a more - <br />, where there are more people around and it's a little easier to maintain security. <br />SOGI:Commissioner, may I respond to that? <br />GALDONES:Sure, Mr. Sogi. <br />SOGI:The exact location of the canoe hlau I think is open to further <br />discussion, and I think that's the agreement of the developer with us, as well. <br />But one of the things that we hoped to use the canoe hlau for was also a community based <br />meeting area in which there could be subsidized programs for youth and teens to learn and <br />become involved with canoe-based activities, fishing, canoe building, paddling, and develop an <br />educational community program surrounding that. And the location, I think, tentatively placed <br />by the parking lot didn't seem to me to be a very good -, in light of what our concept was. <br />And though the bigger 30-foot double-hull canoe that we're contemplating housing there may <br />or may not be housed inside the canoe hlau, there certainly will be support canoes, smaller <br />two and three-man fishing canoes that would be used in addition to the double-hulled canoe <br />that would be stored there. And my personal feeling is that that canoe launch at the southern <br />end is the ideal spot. <br />YUEN:We can certainly -, we'll certainly talk about this further. This also is <br />not an issue that has to be decided in the SMA permit. The SMA permit can allow for the <br />development of a canoe hlau. We are talking about having further -, the exact details of <br />public park development can be -, don't have to be done in the site plan for the SMA permit. <br />GALDONES:Any further questions? Otherwise, Mr. Matsuyama. <br />28 <br /> <br />