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behavioral problems, there€s some significant, or possibly substance abuse. I don€tknow <br />if that€s specifically their take on it. But within that group of people the more high- <br />functioning, the more high-functioning types within that group. Am I understanding you <br />correctly? <br />MCKINNEY:Yes. <br />YUEN:Okay. So they€re not talking about, and there are programs that <br />deal, that take kids who are, there are youth programs that are designed for kids that are <br />maybe leaders in high school and model students, and they€re designed to give them an <br />even extra boost. That€s not your program? <br />MCKINNEY:We€re not that. <br />YUEN:Theirprogramisfortroubledkidsbutthehigherfunctioninggroup <br />within those troubled kids. <br />ALAMEDA:The only issue with that is compliance. See, you know, when they <br />say high-functioning compliant kids, a troubled kid and a compliant kid or behaviorally- <br />challenged kid and a compliant kid, I mean, that€s two sides of the coin. How can you be <br />compliant and yet be a behavioral problem? <br />MCKINNEY:Well, there are so many kids who are very internalized. They shut <br />down, they stay in the room, they don€t do, they don€t interact with anyone -. <br />ALAMEDA:Right, right. <br />MCKINNEY:I mean, so, to me -. <br />ALAMEDA:So, yes, so you€re not talking about the behaviorally acting out, <br />kind of external acting out? You€re talking like what Director Yuen was talking -? <br />MCKINNEY:Yeah, we€re not talking about the kids that are like running away, <br />or being unsafe, or -. <br />ALAMEDA:You€re talking internalized, you€re talking like depression -? <br />MCKINNEY:Right. <br />ALAMEDA:You€re talking those kids who are more kind of reserved? <br />MCKINNEY:Yes. And there is always -. <br />ALAMEDA:So, yeah, if you kind of frame it like that, you might get a better <br />chance, I think; and, again, I€m not speaking for Department of Health. <br />17 <br /> <br />