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WATANABE: Yeah, okay. You know, earlier we were emphasizing, what is that,
<br />cross-easements; and when you’re looking at shopping complexes as KTA and adjoining
<br />complexes, they all have cross-easements. It’s not like, you know, cause you have rather
<br />large lots but you have only a certain amount of access to Kilauea Avenue from the back
<br />portion of KTA and some of the other complexes there, as well as the -. I guess, the
<br />County and the Fire Department has offices there. You know, as we go down this road,
<br />all of these lots on the mauka side of Kilauea Avenue are all individually owned, so
<br />you’re not going to have the ability for cross-easements. So each individual lot is an
<br />entry point into Kilauea. And this is where, you know, and I really have nothing against
<br />the applicant or even the particular business the applicant is proposing to do. The thing is
<br />the zoning will run with the land and the 7-Eleven’s will come in. And then right next
<br />door you’re going to have another camera shop, or whatever it is, and then right next door
<br />you’re going to have -. It’s going to look like a Manono Street, the same thing they’ve
<br />been complaining in Houselots. The problem that, for me the difference is it hasn’t really
<br />taken root yet here. Whereas in Houselots when I was a kid riding a bike it was already
<br />there. It was already changing, 40 years ago it was changing. So, you know, so I don’t
<br />have that much of an issue there. Here it’s not changing yet.But I think as you start
<br />moving in that direction that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
<br />ALAMEDA: All right, I know Commissioner Iwashita loves the irony in this
<br />one, but go ahead, Commissioner Iwashita.
<br />IWASHITA: There’s no irony, I don’t think so. Well, I have to disagree with
<br />Commissioner Watanabe about, you know, the character of the neighborhood. I rode my
<br />bike to get to my hair cut in Houselots 50 years ago, you know and it was just Atebara
<br />Potato Chips and couple of other things. But it really hadn’t changed that much, in my
<br />opinion until, you know, the seventies, eighties, the change of zone and so forth. Yeah,
<br />so there has been in change in there. But if you look at this map, if you just look at this
<br />map where that dot is, there are much more commercial areas, commercially-zoned
<br />property around that dot than there is, you know, in the Manono thing. And I guess my
<br />comment about or my observation about zoning and the role it plays and so forth, as far
<br />as, you know, how utilitarian it is on how we follow the rules -- Big Island Candies to me
<br />is, I’m sorry, is the worst example of how zoning should be done. You take an industrial
<br />project and you put it in the middle of a residential neighborhood? I mean, you know,
<br />that’s, we make exceptions, right? And, you know, when you’re Big Island Candies you
<br />can get an industrial rezoning, you know, a candy factory in the middle of a residential
<br />neighborhood. And, you know, the justification for that was that this neighborhood is
<br />changing, there’s industrial on Kanoelehua, so on and so forth.
<br />So in this case, and I, you all know, you know, I really believe that there should be the
<br />community development planning done; and there’s really no exception here. You know,
<br />in every case it really should be done. I look at this differently because, one, the
<br />applicant has made an effort to talk to the neighbors, the immediate neighbors, about
<br />getting this project done and wanting to do what they do; and the two responses in
<br />writing have been, it’s fine with us. Okay? So we don’t have a community development
<br />plan here but in my mind -. You know, there’s Clint’s Garage, right, which is I guess a
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