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HOUSEL: Have they? <br />J. BARSELL: On, I don’t know, maybe six or seven occasions we’ve had school kids <br />come in with their teachers and principals and things. And they have asked if they can come on <br />our property, you know, for various school projects, and we’ve always allowed those. <br />HOUSEL: Okay. How do they know that? I mean, do you let people know that they <br />can do that or do they -? <br />J. BARSELL: Oh, yes, we encourage such use because that’s the whole purpose of <br />having this property, is to, you know, to create something that people could use; and our purpose <br />of restoring this fishpond is to establish a fish sanctuary. <br />HOUSEL: In your Community Association, are there any security provisions, like <br />security personnel or anything like that? <br />J. BARSEL: We have had in the past and are planning in the future. <br />HOUSEL: Okay. Okay. So that’s your primary management -? <br />J. BARSELL: Well, the primary thing is the gate itself. <br />HOUSEL: Right. I see. Okay. But in cases where there is abuse or, you know, <br />unlawful activity then you have to call the police to manage that, is that correct? <br />J. BARSELL: Oh, yeah, that was always one way. <br />HOUSEL: Okay. Thank you very much. <br />WOODWARD: Any further questions? Commissioner Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to clarify in my mind, the Director referred to <br />these maps that we have before us. And I guess in listening to your explanation, Mr. Yeh, I <br />guess I did not, and I’m just asking this to clarify, there has been no judicial determination as to <br />whether or not the road represented in this 1880 and 1895 map, whether or not that is a public <br />road or not under the Act of 1892? <br />YEH: That’s correct. And -. <br />IWASHITA: So that issue still remains outstanding? <br />YEH: Very much so. <br />IWASHITA: Okay, thank you. <br />WOODWARD: Commissioner Bowman. <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />10 <br /> <br />