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ALAMEDA: Okay. All right, thank you. WOODWARD: Are there any other questions before we hear from Mrs. Barsell? Okay, if you’ll just state your name and address and proceed with your testimony. S. BARSELL: My name is Sandra Barsell, 14-4934 Laimana in the Kapoho Beach Lots. WOODWARD: Okay, go ahead. S. BARSELL: You want me to say something then? Any questions? WOODWARD: If you would like to testify. S. BARSELL: Oh, okay. Well, I’d like to get back to the schools that Commissioner Bowman had talked about. That kind of originated the first time that the fishpond was on the front page of the newspaper, the Hawaiian Tribune. There was a big picture and it was the first time, I think, that the public was aware that we were applying for a permit to rebuild the wall. And apparently the school children read the paper and they went to their teacher and they said could we have a project there or, I’m not sure of the exact words. But, anyway, we were contacted by the school, and we said sure, come on out. A busload of them came out. And I left my file at home but we’ve had about six different times, the recent being Monday, when one of the instructors brought up just a couple of kids. And it’s going to be an on-going project every Monday, different children and their tests, they’re doing water testing, counting fish, you know, whatever their project is. And they’re going to share that with us when they’re finished. So, you know, we really encourage that and we enjoy having them do that. It’s something that’s constructive and we can share that with the schools kids. So, yes. If there are any questions -? WOODWARD: Thank you. Any questions for Ms. Barsell? BOWMAN: I would just, you know, like to commend you on that. And I saw when I asked you about different groups you kind of laughed because, and I realize it’s very labor intensive. And you don’t have, I’ve helped to rebuild fishponds and it’s really, really hard. And I also run an after school program for kids, and to get kids or young adults to do that kind of work is very difficult. I just feel if you ever have a chance to go to Molokai or if you’ve haven’t to really look at that project and the people that are running it, because Office of Hawaiian Affairs they have money. And I think something like this is so valuable. And I also hear your concern with public access. Unfortunately a lot of our people given public access have ruined what we have, like, you know, our natural resources up in Kohala with the opihi and different things because of wanting money. So it’s a double-edged sword. You know, we want people to have that access but the fertility of the area is something really to consider. So thank you. YEH: Just one more thing, and I apologize. Basically, you know, what I would like the Commission to consider is this, as Commissioner Iwashita pointed out, you know, this issue of how you get into that subdivision really is still to me a big issue. And so I think it’s kind of possibly a two-step issue to me for purposes of today’s hearing. And the first, to me, big issue is should there be public access to this particular property under these circumstances? If the EXHIBIT B 12