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GRAHAM:Alex, we can see a lot of these issues on the paper and all that you're <br />bringing up and all, but the one thing we cannot know is what it's like to live there. So can <br />you give me some sense, if you've been there for 11 years, if you had your property, what the <br />traffic situation is like day-to-day? <br />THROPP:Well, the design of Kona Heights, where it dead ends there at the top at <br />Aloha Kona Drive, the Aloha Kona Drive goes all the way down almost to the highway and <br />then there's Welo Street and you cut over a half a block, and that feeds into the bottom of Nani <br />Kailua Drive. So when I go out, I don't have to go on Hienaloli to the top. I could, but I <br />don't have to, and I can go down Aloha Kona, then cut over on that side street at the bottom <br />and then go out at the traffic light. But it still remains that Nani Kailua is the only way to get <br />out at the bottom. <br />And right now, it seems to be flowing pretty well, but this development would piggyback on to <br />that as a way to get out, so that's my concern that they don't have their own road. And it's <br />been discussed that the State won't allow a north in and out access, which would make -, it's <br />very commonsense to me, which would be on the north side of the lower part of the <br />development that's already under construction. And that would make the most sense. And run <br />it right up on the north side of the hole so they could just go down the hill on their own, have <br />their own in and out road, as we have Kona Heights and as Nani Kailua residents have Nani <br />Kailua. Kailua View Estates, I'm sorry, they have their Nani Kailua. So there would be <br />three, if, you know, east-west, up and down the hill exits and accesses. <br />But now these people are -, want to use ours and they want to make 43 houses and throw it on <br />to ours at the top. Then they have a project in the middle that was approved and then at the <br />bottom, then there's two pieces missing from in between. So when that comes up for <br />application, then they're going to ask to come through. It's the same way. It's just, instead of <br />developing the whole strip up and down the mountain, they're doing it in four or five different <br />pieces, and they claim it's different people but I don't know if that's true, because I think th <br />developer might be the same. But my attitude is that they -, each neighborhood should have <br />their own way in and out on this many homes, and that's what I think. I think to add it on to <br />our neighborhood and my neighbors' road is not right. <br />GRAHAM:Yeah, I -. <br />THROPP:It doesn't flow right. <br />GRAHAM:I understand that. I think the consideration maybe that the State has or I <br />would have as somebody who doesn't live there, is where there's, you know, a hundred or <br />several hundred people coming down wanting to get on and off the highway. <br />THROPP:Right. <br />16 <br /> <br />