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And, indeed,Uncle Bill Paris is right, IÓve interviewed kupuna, many of whom are now <br />dead who are native, elder, kamaainas, speakers, native Hawaiian speakers of the land; <br />and uniformly those that are of UncleÓs age and generation all refer to the land by its <br />ahupuaa name. But I might also reference that how often was the <br />used, which is the proper name of the bay fronting the large Kukio? It doesnÓt mean that <br />we throw it away but that we use it and incorporate, we bring it into our recollection of <br />the history that belongs on this land. Too many places, and I hundred and thousand <br />percent support kupunaÓs manao about place names or people names <br />contrived names, whether itÓs to Mauna Kea or wherever else. These names that usurp <br />the traditional and storied place names of the land are critical to our understanding of this <br />landscape and who we are as a people, as an island people now. <br />So thatÓs my one comment, too, is that let us not hasten to throw away a name that <br />actually has in the written record kua as the ocean fronting Maniniowali, it has actually <br />an older presence in the written history of these islands than not. It is actually older in <br />writing than the tradition that Tutu Kihei wrote about Maniniowali, Kukio and the <br />associated families of the land. So I appreciate your patience <br />just so we donÓt throw anything away by mistake. Aloha. <br />SPRINGER:Aloha. Ai Mahalo no. Are there any questions or comments for <br />the testifier? Thank you, Mr. Maley. Is there anyone else? <br />If we can invite the ApplicantÓs representatives to come back to the table for discussion <br />with us. Having heard the comments and some questions that came <br />you have any response to those? <br />TAGUCHI:Just a couple of things. In regards to Mr. HartmanÓs concerns <br />about programmatic access, we will try within our interpretive programs of signage to <br />include as much disabled access that we can. You know, what he said is correct, this is <br />brand new, you know; we donÓt have to fix stuff, so we should just do it correctly. And, <br />you know, itÓll save us a lot of money if we do it correctly the first time. <br />Regarding park hours and access, and those kinds of things, we will try to keep parks <br />open as much as we possibly can to the extent the budgets and the manpower will allow <br />us. It would be great if you can keep parks open, have security around so that it can be <br />opened 24 hours; but thatÓs not a reality. I think the County locks up most of their parks. <br />At night they hire security. We havenÓt even had the luxury of having that kind of <br />monies to lock up our parks. These are going to be administrative kinds of things that we <br />would need to deal with. We are hoping that the economy gets better and more monies <br />come into the coffers. And while, rightfully so, when you are in lean economic times, <br />you need to take care of those things that affect public health and safety; but, you know, <br />the parks are and some of the other natural resources of our State, gets impacted because <br />we havenÓt sufficient funds to manage them properly. <br />I have 8 vacancies now out of a staff of 37; and it is very difficult to run the 14 parks that <br />we have on the Big Island. But we will, we are hoping that the better economic times <br />19 <br /> <br />