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LIN: I'm not familiar with the ulu plant itself but, for the plants and trees <br /> that I've seen they grow to be pretty darn big. I'm interested about the root structure of these plants <br /> or these trees because I don't know how deep they go into the soil and if we're already looking at <br /> historical possible erosion. I don't know how that would impact this property especially if you're <br /> planting along that slope area. So, that's just out of my own curiosity and that's, and I don't know if <br /> you guys would have an answer or but that would be just my personal question would be. <br /> KOCOL: Sure, I've got a lot to learn about all of this. I do know that any kind <br /> of orchard root structure is going to be better than raw crops in terms of erosion and many plants do <br /> help preserve the soil condition. Our farm plan regarding the size of the trees is that they are pruned <br /> down to a height of 15 to 18 feet in a canopy diameter of 25. So, the trees are planted on a 30-foot <br /> centers so that they could be as productive as possible. So, from what I've learned about ulu <br /> farming, you don't want them to get real big. You're going to produce more fruit if they don't. It <br /> requires more maintenance and more effort. So, the plantings along the pali that butt up against the <br /> ulu, that whole side of the pali is heavily vegetated right now and I see no signs of erosion there. <br /> The only erosion we've seen was at the vertical face that's to the north there where the vetiver would <br /> be. So, I actually think considering our options this would be a really good one for soil stabilization <br /> and once the orchard is planted the grounds are not going to be disturbed. <br /> LIN: Thank you. Any other questions or comments. If not, do I have a <br /> motion for action? <br /> DANIELE: I move that the application for Special Management Area(SMA) Use <br /> Permit Docket No. PL-SMA-2023-000034 be approved based on the Planning Director's <br /> recommendation, which shall be adopted. <br /> LIN: Okay, it's been moved by Vice Chair Daniele. Is there a second? <br /> PERRIN: I second. <br /> LIN: Seconded by Commissioner Perrin. Any discussion or comments on <br /> this motion? If not, staff roll call vote. <br /> ROY: Vice Chair Daniele? <br /> DANIELE: Aye. <br /> ROY: Commissioner Perrin? <br /> PERRIN: Aye. <br /> ROY: Commissioner Balog? <br /> BALOG: Aye. <br /> ROY: Commissioner Cross? <br /> 11 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />