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access on every property, the answer is, you know, not a rote yes to that; it’s based on whether or <br />not there are sufficient accesses in the vicinity kind of impacts where they’re going to be created. <br />An archaeological study that was done, and then there is also some work that we are doing right <br />now with traditional – well, I shouldn’t say traditional – but cultural representatives from that <br />area. We’ve already met with several native Hawaiian people who have been interested about <br />making sure that we don’t inhibit traditional access by native Hawaiians who want to access the <br />shoreline. So the policy is not purely public access that would be a condition of this particular <br />Permit, but from a policy standpoint on the applicant’s side to allow people who want to exercise <br />traditional access to the shoreline, they will allow that to occur. And there’re still some <br />discussions about how that’s going to be effectuated, but that’s also largely the reason why the <br />applicant has said we are not going to put up a security gate across the driveway to inhibit native <br />Hawaiians from accessing the shoreline through the property. But from the come-all kind of <br />standpoint as a regular public access issue would be, the answer is, yeah, that’s not what’s on the <br />table right now. I’m not sure if that explains everything, but -. <br />DOMINGO: So you don’t have to put up a sign indicating that that’s a public access <br />going between your property and the neighbor? <br />YEH: Correct, correct. But it’ll be under-. <br />DOMINGO: But it’s a pedestrian walkway that people can use? <br />YEH: It’ll be understood that people want to exercise traditional native Hawaiian <br />cultural access, that that’s going to be something that the owner will allow. Yes. <br />DOMINGO: Thank you. <br />WATANABE: Any other questions for the applicant? Mr. Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA: I have a, looking at this site elevation – it’s labeled A2.2, part of the <br />application, that is the best I can identify it – anyway, it’s this site elevation that shows the <br />compliance with the height limitation. And my question is it, there’s a reference to mean sea <br />level as the reference point from which the measurements begin, and -. <br />KILGORE: Well, as a surveyor measures the site, it builds up from MSL, mean sea <br />level, to a slight berm 6 or 7 feet above sea level, and then the vast majority of where we’re <br />proposing to locate the building is in the 6- to 7-foot range. <br />IWASHITA: Okay, well, I’m not real concerned about the height limitation, but my <br />concern is that – I’m not sure where the high wash of the waves would be, but I assume that’s <br />some place above the mean sea level; and where the measurements are, you know, progressing <br />upward, it basically shows 6 feet, it looks like from mean sea level to the existing grade which is <br />the makai side of the building – and my concern is a general one, and I’m not sure, trying to <br />figure out where it fits here, but you know, in the long run and you talk about the changing sea <br />level and all of that that’s happening, and if we calculate or try to project in a 1-meter increase in <br />all of these ocean levels including the high wash of the waves, I’m just wondering whether or not <br />EXHIBIT B <br />9 <br /> <br />