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aware that there isnt a requirement that you come in and get a bed and breakfast permit before <br />you construct a home. In fact there are many, I think the traditional way bed and breakfasts <br />arrive here is the house is already constructed and then somebody comes in and gets a permit. <br />So, Im not sure exactly what Mr. Matsukawa was getting at in terms of Mr. Ibbetson needed to <br />get a permit before he built the house. Because I think usually what we see is the houses are <br />already there and we have no requirements in the County rules regulations code that require that <br />you come in and get a permit before you do construction. And even if you had seen Mr. <br />Ibbetson come in and ask for a permit before constructing, even if you denied the permit that <br />would not have prevented him from being able to get a building permit to build his house. So the <br />house would still be there. Thank you. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Again the purpose of the opening comments was just to lay <br />out for us as commissioners what we expect to see in the proceedings. Is there anything that <br />youd like to respond to as the applicant with regard to that matter? <br />KRUEGER:Mr. Chairman no I would second the comments from the Countyfor the <br />CorpCounsel.IdontbelievetheresanyregulationthatImawareofthatrequiresanapplicant <br />for a bed and breakfast permit to come in, even if they intended to do it at the time that they <br />build, that theyre building the house. If that use is something, which is subsequent to the <br />construction of the house, theres no reason why they have to come in and apply forthat permit <br />at the time that theyre doing the construction. Mr. Ibbetson applied for the application, applied <br />for the permit after, after the building permit was obtained for the house and is before this <br />commission today asking for your permission to use that property for that purpose. So, thats all. <br />ALAMEDA:Thank you. Were going to have to do some exercise. Im going to have <br />to ask all you guys to take a seat and Im going to call up our testifier for public testimony if you <br />dont mind. I would like to call up Nancietta Haalilio. <br />HAALILIO:Its Nancietta. <br />ALAMEDA:Nancietta. <br />HAALILIO:Yes. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. We already swore you in but you can sit down. <br />HAALILIO:Oh, thank you. <br />ALAMEDA:If you can restate your name and give us your address and you can <br />proceed with your testimony. <br />HAALILIO:€Ae. Aloha no kakou. My name is Nancietta Haalilio. And I dont know <br />theCountynumberofthehomethatIminwith,Istaywithmyson,wererightimmediatelyoff <br />Mamalahoa Highway in Kealia 2. <br />ALAMEDA:Thats fine. You can proceed. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />6 <br /> <br />