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MELROSE: I think thatÓs probably not inappropriate, yes. <br /> <br />STURGES: Yeah, that sounds reasonable. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Okay. Do you -? <br /> <br />STURGES: I mean there are often disagreements about that. But I live a mile from the <br />school, which I consider it to be within walking distance. My daughter who is a junior, however, <br />does not consider it to be within walking distance, so, I mean -. <br />MELROSE: And you know, just as a, weÓll get into this in a minute, but the school is <br />working with PATH, Peoples Advocacy for Trails Hawaii, and theyÓve done a really, they do <br />excellent work relative to looking at what safe school initiatives are in terms of, and theyÓve <br />looked both Waikoloa and Waimea Elementary and Waimea Middle Sch <br />partner with them and is going to be working together with them to work on a safety issue of <br />getting people to walk. It isnÓt really a matter of distance like Carl, you know, kids are going to <br />have a different perception than you do. But a lot of it has to do with what parents think is safe <br />and whether or not they would allow their kids to do this even on a nice day. And we think the <br />Trails and Greenways project is going to be one of those things that will allow more people to do <br />that, if they are close to that roadway. But making the streets generally safe, crossing safe, <br />sidewalk safe, those things are all part of what will ramp that <br />HOUSEL: Okay. So I guess, to be clear Î I want to understand this Î so youÓd <br />estimate that 15 percent of the students of the school do live within one mile of the school and <br />potentially could walk to school, but obviously less, lower percentage of those actually do walk, <br />is that correct? <br /> <br />STURGES: ThatÓs correct. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Okay. Does the school use any bus system? <br /> <br />STURGES: Well, we are very fortunate in having Hele-On Bus that comes up from <br />Kona, Hele-On Bus that comes up from Waikoloa, one that comes down from North Kohala, as <br />well as we also have an in-town shuttle, and that bus system, you know, meets our needs, <br />actually meets the needs of HPA, you know, as well to the degree that we have not felt the need <br />to, you know, provide bussing for our students beyond that. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Has the school considered, especially in some of the outlying areas, <br />HonokaÒa or maybe further north, maybe small busses which would be able to pick up students, <br />bring them to the campus? <br /> <br />STURGES: We considered it. We focused more on helping to arrange carpooling <br />because youÓre talking, I mean, you know, HonokaÒa youÓre talking three or four kids who are <br />probably within close enough distance to one another to, you know, to take the same car in. Like <br />I say, I mean, fortunately Hele-On help us serve the areas of the greatest concentration of our <br />EXHIBIT A <br />12 <br /> <br />