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HOUSEL: <br />Are there any incentives the school offers to encourage parents to carpool <br />or use, you know, mass transit? <br /> <br />STURGES: We do not offer any financial incentives there or other kinds of incentives <br />to do it. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Would you consider that? <br /> <br />STURGES: We could, yeah, I mean I would be very much in favor of getting people to <br />do it, so, yes, I donÓt, we would certainly consider it. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: Okay, thank you. <br /> <br />WATANABE: DoesnÓt look like we have any further questions. So I guess itÓs Mr. RayÓs <br />turn? <br /> <br />MELROSE: No, IÓm going to, what IÓd like to do is just kind of start to talk a little bit <br />about the conditions, touch on a couple of more issues, talk about the individual conditions, and <br />that will give John a chance to actually talk about some of those things as well when we are done <br />with that. <br /> <br />So I just want to start with a comment that, you know, the lands that we are operating with Î <br />there are a few circumstances in which you get exactly what you want Î but in this case we have <br />the lands that we were provided initially by the Parker Ranch; they were owned by Parker Ranch <br />prior. And I want to just draw your attention back to the property that Maija was talking about in <br />the middle Î this piece right here. This is a kuleana; the family who owns that has owned this <br />property since sometime near the Mhele. So their family is, the title is bust up by the family, s <br />thereÓre still multiple heirs. All conversations about including it is a logical one; you want to <br />think, oh, gee, why donÓt you get that property and use that for the school. The truth is itÓs in a <br />Hawaiian family and the school respects that, to build a relationship with that. But it is kind of, <br />itÓs a rock stuck right in the middle of the overall campus floor, and limits certain amount of <br />circulation options and opportunities the school might have. But thatÓs simply the way it is and <br />we live with that <br /> <br />This property is, there was an old Òauwai here that you saw in the archaeological material, and <br />this area here was actually identified as a kÒele or a poÒalima, a place where the chiefs were, or <br />their food was produced and tended by the community over the years; itÓs actually named <br />Kamakahonu. ItÓs a -. And LCA and several the others probably associated with that period of <br />time in life in early HawaiÒi; so thatÓs part of what the school stewards there. The piece of the <br />Òauwai is very clear along the edge but not, nothing is going to be done with that. <br /> <br />But in any event, well, not only is that one of the key pieces, obviously itÓs relationship with this <br />core intersection that has really been a problem for the community. Certainly, the school is not <br />unaware of traffic issues in this community at all. We live with that every single day. The <br />school has probably less than 25 percent of the total student population within a half mile, maybe <br />EXHIBIT A <br />15 <br /> <br />