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Now the County, I believe, has title to one of those roads but it wonÓt pave it so that it <br />would be an access route for us. ThereÓs another road up the, whatÓs it called, two-mile <br />road? But at any rate, there are other old cane roads that used to carry plenty of traffic for <br />local people that are deteriorating; and eventually the County is going to be asked to pay <br />the millions of dollars that it would take to pave them and provide access to the folks <br />youÓre getting ready to allow to build there. But I donÓt think youÓre asking the <br />developers to help pay the cost for this infrastructure thatÓs going to be required. And <br />IÓm not in favor of development in the first place. But if it happens, they have to pay <br />their share of the infrastructure and they have to make sure itÓs there, and that weÓre not <br />just squeezed more and more and more. <br />The other thing that has occurred to me is weÓre really the tip of the iceberg, the people <br />that are here today. ThereÓs a lot of concern in the community, and we are coming up on <br />an election year. So I donÓt think that the things that have been discussed as things the <br />community might ask for to, as a sort of as reparations for the damage thatÓs getting <br />ready to be done to these existing communities is even remotely <br />really threatening the life, and the history, and the integrity of a whole district of this <br />island. And so above and beyond all the legal questions, you need to consider that. <br />Thank you very much. <br />GALDONES:Thank you, Ms. Rice. Commissioners, any questions of Ms. Rice? <br />Thank you, maÓam. State your name, your residence address, and <br />testimony. <br />LOGSDON:My name is Elizabeth Logsdon and I live in Honomu on Puako <br />Street. Good morning. I would just like to say ditto to everyone that spoke before me. <br />And my concerns about whatÓs going on in our area are, as the man from Hakalau said, <br />real and true access. Until last September, a year ago, I was walking on canes and <br />crutches and thereÓs no way that I could go to Hakalau beach anymore because they have <br />the gate and I couldnÓt walk. Now I can walk and arenÓt I lucky. But what about the <br />senior citizens and all the others? So by real and true access, I mean where people can <br />actually drive to the beach where they used to park before. <br />And my other concern is real and true use of the ag land for actual agricultural purposes, <br />not just big houses. I mean, how lovely it would be to have 20 <br />fabulous house. But once we donÓt have agricultural land we donÓt have places to grow <br />food; and this coast has soil that is deep and wonderful for growing. Obviously, sugar <br />cane has been grown here forever. So thatÓs a very big concern of mine. <br />And the other concern is affordable ag land for real farmers that will actually farm the <br />land and raise families and sell their products. ThereÓs a lot of agricultural development <br />going on with diversified ag and people are coming up with all kinds of marvelous crops <br />that small farmers can grow, although they usually take about 20 <br />people canÓt afford to buy the land to grow the crops, then itÓs silly. I know someone that <br />lives in an agricultural subdivision on Maui. They have a 2-1/2 acre lot in this <br />agricultural subdivision. When they purchased their home in 1989, it was $435,000. <br />14 <br /> <br />