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WATANABE: We could do that. But I think he did state that he would love to have an <br />opportunity to revise the Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law that were filed, which then both <br />parties would file and comment on each other, so -. Is that correct, Mr. Lim? Did I interpret <br />your response correctly? <br />LIM: Yes, I’m going to be reserving all of our rights under Rule 4 of the <br />Planning Commission and Chapter 91 with respect to the contested case hearing on the SMA. <br />WATANABE: Okay. In my limited legal knowledge that means we are in limbo again <br />procedurally, because technically we had Corporation Counsel say you have to decide at this <br />meeting one way or another, or it’s denied. On the other hand, we have Mr. Lim saying that I’m <br />not going to agree to any continuance, and I’d like the opportunity, and I object to the informal <br />contested case hearing methodology that’s currently taking place. And then we have the <br />Director saying I’m not going to agree to a deferral, which means according to Corporation <br />Counsel we can’t defer. Now, borrowing comments from others, let me add my two cents into <br />this, if we might. We’ve been through this for quite a while now. I agree that the current RS-15 <br />zoning is much too dense to develop within this. And so I think a change of zone is appropriate, <br />whether that change of zone is Ag-5 or RA-5 or something else – I’m not certain. It seems to me <br />if we can’t defer and if we have to take action one way or another, granting the time extension on <br />Agenda Item 2 for Kohala LLC would seem appropriate to preserve their rights; however, there <br />is no guarantee that the courts will decide that RS-15 is inappropriate. So my question for <br />Corporation Counsel is, if we were to grant the time extension, which would in theory preserve <br />their rights, but the courts decide that RS-15 is fine, then what happens? Does that mean the <br />applicant can go and build 50 homes there, which I think everyone on the Commission agrees is <br />too great a density? <br />TORIGOE: Basically you are asking if the Commission goes ahead and grants the <br />request for extension of time on the SMA Permit, and then the courts basically say that RS-15 is <br />okay, then what happens. Basically, I mean, that’s a very general way of stating it, but I think <br />generally speaking, obviously if you’ve given a go-ahead on an SMA Permit and the courts <br />basically okay a zoning that allows for what you’ve permitted in the SMA Permit, then they can <br />go to the extent of whatever the SMA Permit allows. But if they want to go beyond that, then <br />they’ve got to come back and get the SMA Permit changed. <br />WATANABE: That’s right. That’s what I was trying to clear up, and that’s the quandary <br />for me anyway because, as I stated earlier, I really believe that the density has to be reduced. <br />And this is why in our previous meetings I have really been reaching for both parties to come to <br />some type of compromise, so that we wouldn’t have this limbo situation. Even if it didn’t mean <br />that the zoning would comply with the actual SMA Permit, you know, the zoning could be <br />changed subsequent to the SMA density being worked out. But we’ve never been able to <br />achieve that. So that’s why I’m stuck. Well, do you care to respond to that, Mr. Torigoe? <br />TORIGOE: Well, it sounds like what Mr. Lim is asking for is basically, well, he’s <br />asking for a deferral, so he can work on something that the Commission might be able to <br />support. And then if he gets that, then he hopes to go to the Council and get the zoning adjusted <br />to be able to go ahead with that. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />11 <br /> <br />