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FUKE:Just before that, can I just respond very briefly to like, I guess, <br />Commissioner McCallÓs question? <br />GALDONES:Yes, you may. <br />FUKE:Not, I guess, the comment that he had made. I think that t <br />Planning Director is accurate in his comment about thereÓs very little that can be done, <br />you know, on the makai section Òcause youÓre dealing with two separate parcels. I think <br />that he has tried and, you know, we have tried also to kind of allay that fear. And, you <br />know, in his recommendation to you on page 11 is already kind of <br />that donÓt let the development of this area kind of lend credence to what may happen on <br />the makai side. But inspite of that comment, if you look at Ooma as being in the same <br />context as the property to the south, which this Commission just passed, the Kohanaiki <br />property, we know that that property was zoned for like 11-plus years; and it was just <br />kind of stuck inspite of like the well intention efforts by the community and, particularly, <br />by the developers. And what it showed is that it took a lot of give-and-take and <br />participation between the government, the community and the landowners in coming up <br />with what is called like maybe perhaps like a community-oriented type of program. And <br />I think that this is kind of like the new wave, so, relative to this particular parcel, you <br />know, on the makai side. ÒCause, bearing in mind that any development on that area you <br />would have to go to the State Land Use Commission to try to change it from <br />Conservation to Urban. That would also be subject to a contested case hearing; and even <br />if youÓre successful then one would also have to go through, possibly, if you donÓt get it <br />settled at the Land Use Commission level, you probably have to go through a similar type <br />of hearing before this body under the SMA application. So itÓs like 11-plus years on the <br />Kohanaiki one. So I donÓt think itÓs going to be very simple for any developer to come in <br />and expect to get fast entitlement on the makai side without community type of support. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Fuke, IÓm referring to Jim SogiÓs letter. And if you have a <br />copy of it or have had a chance to read it, IÓm wondering if you can respond to a <br />statement therein. We just received it this morning. <br />FUKE:Okay. Thank you. <br />SPRINGER:YouÓre welcome. Thank you. IÓm looking at the cover page which <br />is fairly brief. The last three lines read, ÐChris, hereÓs our position on the Ooma CliftoÓs <br />requests. Please recommend denial of the SMA and zoning change unless he enters into <br />a written agreement with us. So a written agreement as we did with Rutter KW.Ñ Is <br />your client prepared to at least enter into discussions and a possible written agreement as <br />was in the Rutter case? <br />FUKE:I guess like, first of all, like weÓre not necessarily dealing with the <br />makai property. You know, weÓre dealing with the property thatÓs about three-quarters of <br />a mile or a mile away from the shoreline, as the Director and the record indicated. But <br />16 <br /> <br />