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many trips that would generate. And if it’s over 50 peak hour trips then it would trigger the <br />traffic study. <br />IWASHITA: I guess what I, if I’m the owner, if this goes through this way and then I <br />come up with a proposal and I don’t want to do a TIAR, they’re going to fashion something they <br />can argue no, it’s not going to require 50 peak hour trips. And is that something that is solely <br />determined by the Department administratively or is there something that is based on what’s <br />submitted and has to be -? <br />COTTLE: It’s determined by the Department. When plans come in we look at <br />what’s called the Trip Generation Handbook. It’s created by the Institute of Transportation <br />Engineers and it has various rates based upon the size of, say, an office or the number of <br />dwellings proposed. So it’s a standard used by Transportation Engineers to determine whether a <br />certain type of use would create over 50 trips. <br />IWASHITA: So if you wanted to put in a convenience store then that would -? <br />COTTLE: That would trigger a traffic study. <br />IWASHITA: Okay. I guess I would like it clearer that this determination is solely <br />within the, you know, the Department’s authority, that there’s no way to question it. I’d like it -. <br />Cause this is, you know, to me there can be an argument. I mean even if you have standards, <br />right? I would suggest, you know, that some language be added that it’s a matter to be <br />determined solely by the Department, can’t be disputed by the owner. <br />COTTLE: Okay. We kind of worded the condition this way because if you look at <br />the concurrency requirements in the Zoning Code for change of zone requests, 50 peak hour trips <br />is the standard that’s used to trigger a traffic study. And that language in the Zoning Code <br />actually refers to the Trip Generation Handbook; and it says that that should be used as the guide <br />to determine whether a traffic study is required. So it’s kind of a practice within the Department <br />to refer to that book. <br />IWASHITA: Yeah, I understand the process the way you explained it. I guess what’s, <br />because we’re making, if this is granted, right, then basically, you know, a convenience store is <br />an allowed use. And if the owner comes in there later and says, you know, I don’t want to do <br />this office, I’m going to do a convenience store or some small, you know, whatever, and try and <br />get around, try and make an argument to get around the TIAR, I want this line. Because it’s a <br />triggering device, right, language.So I really would like it clear that it’s the owner cannot argue <br />that a determination by the Department that it’s 50 peak hour trips is somehow arbitrary or create <br />some way to try and dispute it. I understand the intent. It’s just to me, this is not clear enough, <br />you know, that the Department can make that determination and it really can’t be disputed by the <br />owner based on any submitted plans. <br />WOODWARD: Thank you, Commissioner Iwashita. If I could just make a request, please, <br />let’s keep these to questions. We’ll get into discussion later. And if there are any other <br />4 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />