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they don’t get to keep their special permit. And I think, so whatever needs to be done -. I mean <br />when we were speaking to, you know, the answer in here, we were just talking Department of <br />Education because truly most of the kids that are coming, in fact all right now, are from the <br />mainland; and it’s recommended that you do take, and that’s why I mentioned it earlier it is <br />recommended you take a child in a situation of crisis and you completely remove them. So I <br />know it’s an issue. We don’t generally have Hawaii kids here, but most therapists and medical <br />professionalists recommend that you don’t. They know the island better, they can have a <br />friend -. You know, it’s a totally different situation. And so that’s why this kind of works with <br />the mainland kids coming here. And that’s what I was speaking to. But, yes, if it was a Hawaii <br />student and we thought at all that the DOE rules were applicable to the situation, they would <br />have to follow the rules and do whatever is needed to do. <br />WOODWARD: Commissioner Domingo. <br />DOMINGO: You know, I’m listening to Commissioner Iwashita with regards to public <br />school. You know, I’m thinking there will hardly be anyone within this island, or whatever, who <br />would be willing to pay $450 a day, $13,000 a month to -. I don’t know to what extent that child <br />may be, I don’t know what word you can use, controllable or whatever, you know, you can cope, <br />can be coped with. If anything else probably the parents could consider sending them to another <br />private school as your friend did, send them to the mainland for some kind of therapy or action, <br />yeah. <br />ZELKO: They sent her to a similar program, a wilderness program, I believe in <br />Oregon. <br />DOMINGO: Yes, so -. Or another more mild approach would send them to HPA or <br />Parker School, those private schools where they have special programs to take care of them. <br />You know, but the bottom line, the bottom line is the numbers. And I’m looking at this and it’s, <br />it’s a lucrative venture for the applicants. And there are concerns here that aside from, aside <br />from the children here from the Big Island or from the State but, you know, there are issues here <br />that we must closely look at. And if you guys, if you folks can comply with all the requirements <br />that we can push towards you, then,you know, I cannot see any reason why we cannot approve it. <br />And, of course, we have the Councilman from the district here probably will more than likely <br />come up to say something also. You know, what I feel is when you go into a community and if <br />the community cannot accept you it’s going to be real hard, all the way it’s going to be real hard. <br />I’ve seen through that, I’ve been through that. And you have to have acceptance in the <br />community, you have to get good relationships with people in the community if you want their <br />support. Okay? <br />WOODWARD: All right, thank you. We do have two people signed up from the, public <br />testifiers. We have any further questions for the applicant before we get -? <br />ISHIBASHI: Yeah, I have one, Mr. Chair. <br />WOODWARD: Okay, Commissioner Ishibashi. <br />7 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />