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continue to a future meeting. I do have one question though for you and it’s a kind of pointed <br />question, I’m sorry. Okay? <br />WALTER: It’s okay. <br />WATANABE: So it’s your testimony that the CDP was fine except you wanted to make <br />sure the footprint of Urban expansion, etc. was, you know, this specific area, yeah. And my <br />question to you is within that vision of what that footprint is, this particular parcel is outside of <br />that? <br />WALTER: Yes, sir. <br />WATANABE: But, okay. And then I did say it was going to be pointed, so within that <br />vision, yeah, who owns all of that property of the urban expansion area? <br />WALTER: We own the majority, we may own all of it. <br />WATANABE: That, see, that’s where I have a bit of a concern. <br />WALTER: You know, I think that’s a fair concern. <br />WATANABE: I told you I’d be pointed. <br />WALTER: Rodney, I think that’s a fair concern; and I want to assure you that if what <br />we were looking at here was a special use permit, for instance, for the Rainforest Water Group to <br />operate their plant, I wouldn’t be sitting here. And there is another group nearby that has a <br />similar request now. We don’t plan to contest it. The reason is that that use alone generates very <br />marginal traffic and not enough to put us at the tipping point. My concern here puts it at the <br />tipping point. <br />Let me say something else about the CDP, just so that we get it clear. There are many thrusts in <br />the CDP that I agree with. There were some very specific details in it that we felt were harmful <br />to that thrust. So I wouldn’t want to paint a brush that said we agreed with the whole thing, nor <br />that we disagree with the whole thing. We suggested a number of amendments. Actually, <br />Mr. Yuen had, I think, six or seven amendments that we were in agreement with; and we made it <br />clear at that time that were his amendments approved that we would step back and be fine with <br />it. <br />WATANABE: Thank you. We have any further questions? <br />HOUSEL: I have -. <br />WATANABE: Yes. <br />HOUSEL: To understand the chronology, the Puna Sugar Company, when did they <br />cease operations at this site? <br />WALTER: They ceased operations in 1988 I believe it was. <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />14 <br /> <br />