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zoning, no industrial or no commercial zoning -- now if you take that to the end degree too, then <br />what happens if there is a need for an industrial zoning where it’s not designated for any <br />industrial on the General Plan? So the only way that you can do that is you have to have a <br />General Plan Amendment. So like in this Keaau Village area, the only place you have the <br />industrial designated area would be the heavy industrial area or the Shipman industrial park and <br />the subject area. And so like the subject area is outside of the so-called village core. So if there <br />is an event for like an industrial need within the village core, where do you zone it? Because you <br />can’t zone it, if you take that CDP Map to its enddegree you can’t zone it within the village core <br />because of that one provision. Thus, from my perspective the way I had looked at the CDP is <br />that you look at the overall objectives, you know. And what I tried to point out is, you know, <br />you look at the CDP and then what are the guiding principles? The guiding principles in the <br />CDP is that you have like the four major themes. So in my Exhibit D in the application that I, <br />you know, the report that I prepared, what I tried to demonstrate is that looking at the plan as a <br />whole does the project generally implement those three major themes. And I think that from the <br />way that I had evaluated it that, yes, it did. Cause again if you take like only one component and <br />then you eliminate everything else, then it becomes super controlling. So I was looking at it <br />from the CDP itself. <br />The other question in terms of like the demand, I think what’s really important to understand is <br />that, yes, there are vacant subdivided parcels. What’s really important here to understand, what <br />Mr. Sungis proposing to do, you know, he has those existing warehouses, he needs probably like <br />about 60 percent of those for his operation. If the zoning goes through, if we can’t special <br />permit, we’ve got to get a zoning. But if he can get a special permit -. But, nevertheless, he <br />needs only 60 percent. So his idea is to kind of renovate the whole thing and eventually be in a <br />position to rent or lease those vacant areas to area residents. If you look at the vacant parcel, it’s <br />tough right now, you know in this state of the economy to find a developer willing to construct a <br />new building and make it available for industrial lease. So that’s the difference. You know, <br />inventory wise, yes. If you look at it purely from the land standpoint, yes. But the question is <br />like from an inventory standpoint do you have structures where a person can readily move in and <br />do, you know, this small type of industrial-related operation? That’s about it, without getting <br />into more detail. I’m sorry. <br />WATANABE: Okay, okay. You did mention if he can’t get the special permit he has to <br />go through the change of zone, which he’s presently in because the former Director had <br />suggested that this is the proper route to go. Am I hearing this properly? Does that mean that <br />Mr. Sung is still willing to go along the lines with the special permit if that avenue is now open <br />now that the administration has changed? Is that what I’m hearing or no you want to proceed no <br />matter what with the change of zone? <br />FUKE: I think, and I need to reconfirm this with Mr. Sung, and he’s here. I think <br />the bottom line is that, you know, his primary intent is to do the bottling and fruit beverage plant. <br />Now he has got like the, you know, he’s going to be using probably like about 60 percent of the <br />existing structures. To help underwrite some of the costs, you know, he would still want to be in <br />a position to utilize the remaining structures, not necessarily directly associated with the bottling <br />plant but any type of industrial-related uses. <br />WATANABE: I’m mostly, you don’t need to commit to that. I mostly asked that to get <br />an idea of timeframe, you know. In other words if the special permit is on the table, yeah, then <br />there are three parties that you can work with; and I would suggest that that may be on the table, <br />yeah, that we continue this matter until it’s ready to be deliberated, you know. Meaning you <br />would, you guys determine, you guys tell it, rather than we set the schedule now to the next <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />17 <br /> <br />