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SIRACUSA: Yes. Well, Mr. Lim already said that basically he accepts the exceptions that Mr. Yuen wrote to the hearing officer’s report. I was wondering at what point do we ask Mr. Yuen if he accepts Mr. Lim’s exceptions, and at what point do we ask Mr. Hardy- Sullivan about his take on both sets of exceptions. So, I’m looking for a level playing field and to get everybody’s take on this question before we proceed further. ALAMEDA: Mr. Torigoe? TORIGOE: There’s different ways you can do it. You can just ask each party for kind of overview what their position is on these things, and then allow them to go into more detailed final argument. SIRACUSA: Can I do that now then? ALAMEDA: Sure. So, Mr. Lim, can we move forward to the Director and see what he has to say about the exceptions, and then ask Mr. Hardy-Sullivan as well? Okay, so, Mr. Director? Oh, ma’am? SELF: For the record, Amy Self, Deputy Corporation Counsel representing the Planning Director on my left. I don’t think you’ve sworn in the Planning Director yet. Chris Yuen? ALAMEDA: In earlier meeting we swore him in, okay? SELF: Okay. We have no objections to the applicant’s exceptions to the hearings officer’s report. ALAMEDA: All right. SIRACUSA: Okay, thank you. Mr. Hardy-Sullivan, it’s your turn. HARDY-SULLIVAN: Our contest with the application is prior to the point of any final Findings of Fact or any exceptions, the hearing was not held, it was very irregular, the process was somewhat unethical and possibly illegal. So, when it was stated that by Corporation Counsel that this is not standard procedure, nor was our special hearing on any aspect, and we can attest that, and that’s why the petition has been filed. That’s why we did not file our Findings of Fact because by doing that, we would have affirmed the special hearing procedure. It was unfair, it was not impartial. We have testimony to that. My partner, Mr. Rusalavitch, is not here at this time; he has a family emergency in Chicago. But we would like to bring this up in court, and all we requested was the opportunity for a fair hearing. We haven’t even got to the point to where any conclusion of the Findings of Fact or exceptions or anything, as far as you yourselves are concerned. We have very relevant statements of issues that many not considered, and the procedures of Ms. Song were very, very inappropriate. And so, at this point the intervenor’s position would be to defer this until a hearing can be held as to for up or down, as to if the procedures were correct, and at that point if we have to deal with the findings and conclusions, we will at that time. But in the meantime that’s why I think every citizen ourselves EXHIBIT B 8