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YUEN: That’s an “or,” though. <br />OGATA: It’s a “or.” Right here. <br />WATANABE: Oh, okay. <br />GRAHAM: Yeah, I think we’ve got that clear yes? <br />WATANABE: Yeah. <br />GRAHAM: Good. <br />YUEN: Oh, and just so the Commission is clear, this is one of those, because it’s <br />an overall change to the Zoning Code, this is one of those things that we would present at two <br />meetings, one on each side of the island. So we are not asking for action by the Commission <br />today; this will be again on the, the next meeting in East Hawaii, on the agenda, and that we <br />would ask for the Commission to act at that time. But we, you know, we can continue this, this <br />discussion certainly today. <br />GRAHAM: So the gist on the actual Exhibit A, Chris, is that in the previous <br />ordinance, we had (1) and (2) and an “or” relationship, whereas you’re now sort of saying that <br />they both would have to be fulfilled. <br />YUEN: It would simply be, allow a five percent increase or decrease in any zoning <br />district. <br />SIRACUSA: Mr. Chair? <br />GRAHAM: Okay, yes? <br />SIRACUSA: I’m afraid I just didn’t catch it or understand why you’ve deleted the “not <br />result in a net increase in the density involved.” Maybe I’m dense today, but -. <br />YUEN: Honestly, I felt that -. <br />SIRACUSA: ’Cause I like that part. <br />YUEN: Well, that is also kind of vague as to what that actually means. <br />SIRACUSA: I mean that’s, we are talking about counting numbers, isn’t that or, you <br />know, I mean -. <br />YUEN: The wording of, the wording would allow, the new wording would allow <br />the following, okay – I’m going to, I’ll give you an example what the new wording would allow <br />that would not, that might not be allowed in the current wording, all right – if you had 100,000 <br />square feet of RS zone adjoining 100,000 square feet of Open zone, you could increase the RS <br />zone by a nonsignificant zoning change up to five percent, or to 105,000 square feet, without a <br />EXHIBIT C <br />4 <br /> <br />