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most recent hearing and four months after the first hearing. The rules were not followed regarding <br />subsurface testing. And said derelictions in the law compelled the Kanuha ‘Ohana to request <br />standing as a party. <br />HOUSEL: Mr. Olson, as I read the language of the rule, it says that the written request for standing <br />must be submitted no later than seven days prior to the Commission’s first meeting, not substantive <br />hearing. <br />P. OLSON: Correct. Let’s say if you want to do a strict construction of Rule 4-6(a), that’s correct, <br />okay? Now, a separate avenue that we are arguing and we documented in our letter, our December <br />th <br />10letter, is that the Kanuhas can be afforded separate relief and a separate avenue for having <br />standing under 6(e), okay? And it’s commonly referred to as anindispensable party in civil actions, <br />and this is similar, okay? And this rule is for these specific situations. And if we want to talk about <br />policy and setting precedent, what the Planning Department is basically insinuating is, and we can <br />insinuate back is, that if the Commission denies a lineal descendant of a property standing based <br />upon this rule, they are setting that precedent, and that would be litigated. And it goes both ways. <br />HOUSEL: Thank you, Mr. Olson. I think under the circumstances and looking at the procedural <br />issues here, I believe we are going to have to proceed forward on the procedural issues, and that we <br />are going to have to make a determination of the standing at this point. <br />P. OLSON: Okay, so the Commission is to take it to a vote now? <br />HOUSEL: Yes. <br />P. OLSON: Okay. I would like to, you know, make a record of that, so I can lay in the record what <br />his interest are. I want to elaborate on that. I want to give an offer of proof or call him to testify, <br />and then the Commission can make their decision on that. I think that’s only fair. <br />HOUSEL: Okay, that’s fair -. <br />YEH: Mr. Chairman, before we need to give and get another testimony portion, it might be more <br />efficient and productive, I mean, what’s the offer of proof? Maybe I should ask that rather than <br />have the witness testify at this point. <br />HOUSEL: Can you repeat it again? <br />YEH: Yeah, I’m just trying to find out what would be -. I’m okay with an offer of proof in terms <br />of a verbal offer of proof from Mr. Olson what would Mr. Kanuha to be testifying to in order to lay <br />a record. That may be enough. <br />P. OLSON: Well, if Mr. Yeh wants to stipulate to certain facts, we can do that as well. I would like <br />to have him testify. <br />HOUSEL: I guess -. <br />YEH: I can’t stipulate to anything unless I know what the offer is. <br />21 <br />EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />