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P. OLSON: And that’s because your family has been there for hundreds of years, right? <br />KANUHA: Or probably thousands of years. <br />P. OLSON: Okay. And it’s probably your kupuna whose iwi that is -. <br />KANUHA: It could be. <br />P. OLSON: As far as you are concerned? <br />KANUHA: Yeah, it is. That’s where we all come from, yeah? <br />P. OLSON: So you have an interest in protecting iwi in that area, right? <br />P. OLSON: Okay, including iwi. <br />KANUHA:Including the iwis. <br />P. OLSON: And you want to prevent the desecration of iwi in that area as well, right? <br />KANUHA: Definitely. <br />P. OLSON: Okay. Now, do you have anything else to say? <br />KANUHA: Yeah, I do. I get, you know, why, if Tom don’t mind, because you guys are going to <br />debate about a lot of things. A lot of times we get misled in a lot of things that we do when we <br />grow up, misled by people, misled of a lot of our culture. But sometimes we sit down and we look <br />and we say we are all from Kailua, this area; there is nobody in this room besides Aunty Hannah <br />and the kupuna that’s here that were born and raised <br />all of us. That’s where we all first came as the piko of all our, of everything for Hawaiian life is <br />from there. And I think, the gentleman who owns the property, now he understands what the piko <br />means because he’s been told. I understand you the Commission has decisions to make. I <br />understand that you will do the right one. Only ke Akua, they’re going to tell you what to do – <br />nobod. It goes from mauka to makai. And if you guys desecrate this <br />place, like where we are heading to, we talk, it’s all pau – no more nothing else. And I know, I <br />know that you guys are going to make right decisions, whether you build one hotel, whether you <br />build one house. But if we don’t educate our people now, we’re never going to learn about who we <br />are. You want to ask me questions, Tom? <br />P. OLSON: One last question: Now, do you want the proper archaeological inventory survey to be <br />done? <br />KANUHA: I do. And I also do think that, you know, the State Preservation has gone there – and I <br />don’t know if you just got you guys’ report on the thing yet – if, you know, one department says no, <br />it’s no. Why do we discuss about changing one of the guys’ decision about what is right? And I <br />don’t know the laws too much; but I know where my hearts stay, I know I’m connected, I know that <br />25 <br />EXHIBIT D <br /> <br />