GMAC 2.21.23 final draft minutes

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depends on your goals for the land, you know, are people getting the animals they want from it from a hunting perspective and are we protecting our fisheries resources – not getting too much sedimentation and that kind of thing – protecting our land resources with our plants and things – so there’s a lot of tradeoffs to think about, so it’s difficult to have a right number, but you gotta monitor for those things if you want to be able to answer those questions and right now I don’t think we’re necessarily doing a good job of monitoring how many animals the land can actually handle and how many animals do you need to have to make sure the hunters are getting the animals that they want. AA: For the record, that was Melissa Price. MP: Sorry about that. SW: Deputy Corporation Counsel, Sylvia Wan. So I just want to let you know that whatever you put in the chat is not gonna be saved so if you do have a link or paper that you want to share with the Commission can you please email that to Barbara Kossow – her email address is on the agenda and that way it can be shared with the members. MP: Absolutely, I’m happy to share those. BL: Brian Ley, District – 4. Another concern is – like we were talking to the property owners, you know, I’ve got some friends on Maui and we’ve talked about this – we’ve got the same thing on the Big Island – they’re putting deer fences up and we’re basically corralling these animals and turning them into livestock like you’ve seen on PTA where the bird hunting and the vegetation has just been decimated by lack of game management and overcrowding because these animals can’t move to more productive areas and like you said, you know, we’ve got these landowners that are crying about the animals but they’re not letting people there and we’ve got hunters that want, you know, more liberal hunting things and we’re not getting what we need, you know, we’ve got these problems and from the hunters’ point of view GMAC – been begging for game management and rules, like you say, you can’t pick these terminal animals – we can’t move ‘em to a different area, we can’t hunt at night, we can’t shoot them, we can’t do this, we can’t, can’t, can’t and then we end up in a situation like you show where we see these bright red for these animals that are out of control cause there’s no effective game management. And that’s my problem is that I have is, we have no game management – you come in – you’re doing pure research – I appreciate that – and you’re looking at the numbers but I see what’s gonna happen is – you come in here with these numbers and say, oh, my God, look what we gotta do – we’ve got to poison, we’ve gotta kill, we gotta do whatever we can for these animals instead of doing sensible legislation – like I said, Act 315 – we’ve got these huge hunting areas and it’s all fountain grass. Nothing wants to eat it and then they wonder why there’s no animals in there. We need vegetative and habitat to attract these animals out of the areas, you know, it’s a web – I’m preaching to the choir with you, but you can see our concerns and stuff like that, let’s put some water for the goats and the deer. Let’s have some controlled burns to get the fountain grass and get some good vegetation in and draw these animals out of these trouble areas – let’s, you know, the \[unclear\] homeowners crying – they need to get the hunters in there – they need to quit crying to the State to fix the problem – it’s your property, I’ve got a fence around my house to keep the crack heads out – put a fence around your property if you don’t want the 18