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what are the actions available to you? Are you actually utilizing your community hunters to help <br />reduce the numbers on your land? You know, is it fencing that needs to happen and what are <br />the potentials – ripple effects – if you fence that area it’s going to change the movement <br />patterns of the animals –how’s that gonna either improve or impact things in other places – so <br />we’re trying to take a really comprehensive approach to that, again, that was funded by USDA <br />so that’s why it’s focused on the rancher’s side of things when we’re thinking about other kinds <br />of numbers I do appreciate – I think the State is working on doing a better reporting system for <br />like as a hunter you’re checking in, you’re reporting the number of animals you got that day and <br />it’s not a paper system so that other people aren’t, you know you don’t have those reporting <br />issues of people not wanting to show everyone else how many animals they got. <br /> <br />LT: Do you guys use that hunting data as well for you guys charting and distribution maps other <br />than the, ah, you know cause you guys get the data from Maui Nui – so do you guys also use the <br />DLNR hunter checking data? <br /> <br />MP: I think they just started that two years ago – when was that electronic system implemented? <br />Within the last two years, yeah? So, for Maui the project finished in 2018 was it 2018 Derek? So <br />I think the system was implemented after we finished the project, um, Hawaii we just finished <br />data collection in 2021 so, again, there wasn’t good overlap with those data and I know there’s <br />kind of a lag time in hunter uptake for using that system too, so, um, down the road that’s a <br />great idea and that’s something that would be a great point of comparison for our model, so <br />thanks for that suggestion. <br /> <br />LT: OK. Right on, mahalo… That’s all my questions. <br /> <br />AA: Thank you, Leomana. Any other questions or comments from the Commission? Not seeing any, <br />ah, Abraham, District – 5, it was brought up earlier in a meeting about the Act 315, how do you <br />guys – what is your guys stance on that – it’s just that, you know, because our game animals, <br />you know, they came in as a sustainable resource, as a resource, right, that’s why the Hawaiians <br />brought ‘em in that’s why Captain Cook pretty much brought in a lot of pigs, the goats, the <br />sheep and, you know, they were gifts to the high chiefs, you know, and to the kings and, it just – <br />they then became overpopulated due to lack of game management, right, and then now, last <br />year, we got a sustainable resource bill to get our game animals, our game resource out from <br />that invasive species wording and, just making it a sustainable resource so what is your guys’ <br />take on that – in the research that you guys are using, doing…? <br /> <br />MP: Melissa Price UH, so I appreciate that question and I appreciate the work to get things into the <br />legislature so that you have a policy basis for making change. I want to be really forthright, you <br />know, I’m not Hawaiian and so I’m – I can’t speak to those values – I listen to what other people <br />are saying and I try to make sure that I’m supporting and giving good data. The student that <br />worked with me in my lab and I made sure that they had 2 Hawaiian scholar advisors as well so <br />that things were grounded in Hawaiian ways of knowing and perspective to make sure that that <br />was all done appropriately in looking in the Hawaiian newspapers one of the things that was <br />really interesting is that prior to Captain Cook’s arrival and the devastating disease that <br />impacted Hawaiian people and really changed the physiological systems so that you didn’t, the <br />water was diverted, you had all of the things that really impacted the system – \[unclear\] an <br />agricultural resource within the area of management, right, and the \[unclear\] kanaka, right? And <br />21 <br /> <br /> <br />