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everything got to go through Barbara and Barbara sends me a bunch of things and it’s just like <br />notifications that things that already gone by that we didn’t even touch on so… <br /> <br />LT: Um-hum… <br /> <br />AA: ….that’s ongoing battle that we fight from before and it’s still going and we’ll fight in the future <br />as well, but, you know, we’re reaching out and we’re working with these guys and all we can do <br />is get good communication like we’re working with, ah, having communication with Melissa <br />Price and her team and that’s, that’s the way it goes, you just have that good communication, <br />right? <br /> <br />LT: Um-hum. <br /> <br />AA: So, I guess if you want you can reach out to… <br /> <br />LT: I guess that’s just part of it, yeah, they get, I mean, cause I feel like they utilize all of the wild <br />game to their advantage to use as, like political tools to… <br /> <br />AA: Yup. <br /> <br />LT: ….you know, and there’s, and to me it’s like we really make the wild game suffer here and <br />hunting for, you know, public hunting is gonna suffer because of this and I’m \[unclear\] I just <br />trying to protect public hunting and all of our wild animals. <br />AA: Correct… <br /> <br />LT: Anyway, thank you. <br /> <br />NR: Aloha, Natalie, District – 7, as mentioned before at the beginning of the meeting you were <br />gonna give the people an opportunity to speak on manta ray before I do the committee update <br />correct? <br /> <br />c. DLNR Boating and Ocean Recreation – Rules & Regulations Related to <br />Manta Ray Tours Committee. <br /> <br />AA: Yes, we’ll do that right now, moving forward, ah, moving to DLNR Boating and Ocean Recreation <br />Rules and Regulations related to the Manta Ray Tours. Um, first in line we have… <br /> <br />SW: For public testimony… <br /> <br />AA: For public testimony, ah, Keller Laros from the Manta Pacific Research Foundation – just <br />remember you have three minutes. <br /> <br />KL: Thanks very much for having me today. I appreciate all of you guys’ time. My name is Keller <br />Laros, I’ve been diving with manta rays since 1985. I’ve been teaching a class about manta rays <br />since 1993. I’ve issued over 500 certifications about manta rays, manta ray biology as well as <br />how to responsibly scoop, dive and snorkel with manta rays. In 2003 we got… we founded the – <br />pardon me – 2002 – we founded the Manta Pacific Research Foundation, non-profit <br />29 <br /> <br /> <br />