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NR: Yes, Hi. As you can tell that there are a lot of emotions and a lot of businesses and there’s a lot <br />at stuff at stake in regards to the manta rays. It has been a challenge sometimes to get a hold of <br />DOBOR and have communication with them, however, today I did a hail Mary and actually Ed <br />Underwood gave me a call today and he addressed a couple questions cause he said he had a <br />moment for me so I kinda just asked him in regards to the big debate of permits because there’s <br />a lot of gray area when it comes to permits as far who’s gonna get them, who can keep ‘em. <br />There’s a debate of, you know, if you do not have a motor, if you have a small vessel which is <br />like 6 and under, I think that’s how the Coast Guard depicted it and then he had stated that <br />there’s going to be a lottery and there’s not gonna be any separation between like a non- <br />motorized and a unit that carries or a vessel that carries 30 or more people, everybody’s <br />grouped into the same category as well as when you want to bring in and add the mooring – he <br />wants to do that as, I guess, safety, but there’s a lot of debate with adding more boats. There’s <br />issues with people across the board with just having Keauhou and Honokohau slightly separated <br />where you have people pick which kind of permit they want and which like permits for location <br />– that could maybe alleviate some of the issues as far as the overcrowding but the proposed <br />rules and regulations that are coming out are currently not helpful to everyone across the board <br />and we’re hoping that maybe some of the information that is gonna be at the Civic Center on <br />Thursday at 10:30a will get some answers but it’s just frustrating for the general public that has <br />manta ray tours businesses that they feel as if DOBOR kind of side swiped them and didn’t allow <br />them to hear their voices or work with them because it is kind of organized when you go to <br />Honokohau and when you go to Keauhou – I want to say Terry said it there – it’s like a <br />gentlemen’s agreement – everybody has an like an agreement and they do work together but I <br />think that these proposed rules and regulations are 1) freaking people out because as I believe <br />Jonie was mentioning in getting a little… <br /> <br />AA: Natalie? <br /> <br />NR: Yes. <br /> <br />AA: Sorry, Abraham – District 5. Let’s make a motion to table your – this subject till next meeting. <br /> <br />NR: Oh, it’s 3:58p. Yeah, yeah, 3:58 so table it for next month. <br /> <br />SW: Do you want to say one more time because these rules, my understanding from what you’re <br />saying – is that the rules that you’re talking about right now – they’re gonna have a public <br />hearing on those rules… <br /> <br />AA: On Thursday… <br /> <br />SW: On Thursday – do you want to state that one more time for everybody’s that’s listening? <br /> <br />NR: Yes. So, there’s gonna be a public hearing at West Hawaii Civic Center and that is at 10:30a if <br />you want to do an in person testimony you need to be there 30 minutes prior or you can submit <br />a written testimony up to 11:59 pm on Thursday, or mail it and have the postage be stamp <br />marked for that day on Thursday. But if you guys want to get your voice heard and take with <br />them that’s your opportunity cause we can only do so much as we’re an advisory commission. <br /> <br />34 <br /> <br /> <br />