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JPC: Yeah, so they do – both East Hawaii and the West Hawaii Wildlife program does game bird
<br />surveys twice a year – post and preseason. I’m not exactly sure about when the West Hawaii
<br />program is planning to do their Mauna Kea surveys but they usually involve some people from
<br />the public, some volunteers that come out, the transepts and they survey and plus surveys with
<br />dogs. As well \[Unclear\] is listening in – looking for birds.
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<br />AG: So, if they do see a major decline with their survey do, would they stall opening of the season
<br />till the next year so they can re-coop or we just open again?
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<br />JPC: Um, that’s, you know, that could be an option. I don’t know off the top of my head any past
<br />times that they’ve \[unclear\] stalled hunting seasons – the Act 1020 allows us to, you know,
<br />change, modify rules at a quicker pace so if there was an alarming decrease, for example on
<br />Mauna Kea, um, we have the ability – there is a process but it’s a faster process than just
<br />changing rules.
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<br />AG: Awesome. Thank you. I just think another reason, too, why, harvest rates are going up
<br />worldwide is because our equipment has pretty much revolutionized – it’s got so much better,
<br />guys, everything is just top notch nowadays so it’s we gotta be careful on overkilling for sure. I
<br />just wanted to bring it up to see what your thoughts were. Thank you.
<br />JPC: You know, peoples hunting here, you know, dog tracking and then people’s vehicles,
<br />everybody’s got a 4-wheel drive truck with a lift on it and you know they can \[unclear\], um,
<br />unfortunately, people are also more into hunting, you know, \[unclear\] you had commented on
<br />social media earlier for some people it’s the popular thing to do, right? So…
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<br />AG: Yeah…
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<br />NR: I had a question in regards to the 1020 bill that allows you to speed up the process – is there is
<br />issues, what kind of speeding of that process or like how fast are you allowed to do it cause if
<br />there is a like a great decline like what’s that process – do you have to go through so many
<br />channels or are you guys just within your little group allowed to do it or do you have to take it
<br />out for a vote and all of that stuff?
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<br />JPC: There is the process – the general process within our Division, there’s our bosses have to
<br />approve it, um, just internally in house – it’s mostly just verbal approval and then it gets
<br />drafted and then it goes to – whenever there’s a Board meeting it goes to the Board and they
<br />approve it and then, once it’s approved then I think it has, it has ten days to go into effect and
<br />then it lasts for two years but it can you know, and I don’t know if it can like change again after
<br />we’ve begun that.
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<br />NR: And then my other question was –is if you see like a decrease at what percentage is that in
<br />order for you guys to possibly delay the season?
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<br />JPC: Um, I don’t think we – I can’t say that we have an actual like if it gets below 50%, we’d have to
<br />look at the numbers more in depth but, yeah, there isn’t, I mean, I guess, you know, we
<br />compare it over years as well as, you know, seasons and maybe, take into effect other factors
<br />such as, maybe we’re in like some sort of drought or, you know, any sort of abiotic or bionic
<br />factors \[unclear\] maybe there’s some sort of disease that’s coming through – those are other
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