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broken with brucellosis that had dogs, I’ll test the dogs as well – every one of those farms had at <br />least one dog that was also infected so… <br /> <br />AG: Did the dogs die from it too or they… <br /> <br />KK: They, a lot of times they won’t show symptoms but they’ll have arthritis all over. The brucellosis <br />like to go for the reproductive tissue and up into the spine – so they’ll have spinal abscesses, it’s <br />pretty painful, it’s a tough disease to live with, um, up in I think New South Wales in Australia – <br />they have a lot of brucellosis in the wild pigs there and their version of \[unclear\] came out the <br />same. When you bring these dogs in for their annual vaccines and check them for heartworm – <br />check them for brucellosis as well because they were finding, that’ll, you know, well, \[unclear\] <br />hunting dogs were positive. Usually, it’s the grabber, especially if they grab them by the testicles <br />and you have infection in the testicles boom right there. <br /> <br />AG: That’s a sure sign if a pig’s testicles are big then… <br /> <br />KK: \[Unclear\] but a lot of times these pigs look perfectly well… <br /> <br />AG: Cause I’ve seen some pigs with huge massive… <br /> <br />KK: Exactly and then, of course, with pseudo rabies, thank God, we don’t get that but when the <br />dogs, sheep, cattle – they get pseudo rabies it’s called a juicy disease or the mad itch – there’s <br />no treatment, there’s no cure. Dogs die before blood testing \[unclear\] positive. It’s a horrific way <br />to go – they tend to scratch and just tear themselves apart, they can’t stop and really they’re <br />dead from encephalitis within two, three days max. And there’s videos on Big Island thieves <br />about \[unclear\] infected dogs. <br /> <br />AA: Any other questions for Kim? <br /> <br />NR: Yeah, thank you for coming in, Natalie, District – 7, thank you for coming in and sharing all that it <br />was very informational, really appreciate it. <br /> <br />KK: Sorry for running over, I knew it would. I had a lot to get out so… <br /> <br />LT: Aloha, Leomana, District – 3, um, thank you Kim. I think I sat next to you on the plane one time. <br /> <br />KK: Yes. <br /> <br />LT: I have one question and it’s about – you were talking about how the industry regulates diseases <br />according to cost and they target the big cost diseases but are there any low cost disease that <br />they don’t target to try and cure that might affect human health, you know, it might not affect <br />the financials of the industry but it might affect the human health and so maybe they might not I <br />guess report it, try and cure it or fix it. <br /> <br />KK: Yeah, that’s a great question, unfortunately there are so many that are out there and with <br />budgets the way they are, I know that there’s a concept out there called “One Health” and that’s <br />where new and emerging diseases primarily we’re looking now where it’s gonna be coming out <br />of all of the wildlife that’s out there, I mean, look at Corona coming from a bat that came from <br />12 <br /> <br /> <br />