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back of the forest till you hit the fence line in the back and then it loops around and it comes
<br />back up to S2, but it’s a very simple hunting area – just basically walk on the road if you wanna
<br />transgress, you know, into the forest you can cut in any time - but it’s good for like, ah, the
<br />kupuna and even if you have young kids that’s a good place. I took my kids there many years
<br />and, more sites outside. I’ve been hunting up there for many, many, many years and that area
<br />has provided for my family and other people all this time, so, Morris came in and, they fenced
<br />off their boundary and I don’t think, I don’t feel that they should take off small little section
<br />because for one it’s just so easy for everybody that wants to use that area and it’s just such a
<br />good resource up there and it’s a public hunting area, right? So, why are you going, why are they
<br />gonna keep on taking out public hunting areas when they already took more than enough and
<br />they still want to take more when there’s other hunting areas that is more inaccessible like way
<br />up where nobody can reach in a bit, like this particular area – you just park right there and
<br />you’re already, you know, you get one good chance of catching something already in like the
<br />first five minutes which happened many times so at this time we’ll let – we’ll have a motion to
<br />draft up a letter to not support the fencing up the south side boundary.
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<br />SW: So, just to clarify, what you’re seeking is a motion to oppose the fencing that’s up…
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<br />RD: Chair, just a housekeeping or a, you know, suggestion. Do we finish with Joshua Pang’s
<br />business…? Get him off the agenda and then we can address your issues?
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<br />AA: OK.
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<br />SW: So, I didn’t want to stop your soliloquy but, which is just along what you were saying, I do agree
<br />with Mr. Duerr in that we should probably finish the question session first for Mr. Pang and Mr.
<br />Cole and then we can move on to a possible motion.
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<br />AA: OK. Are there any more questions for Mr. Pang and Mr. Cole from any other Commissioner?
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<br />BL: Brian Ley, District – 4. I appreciate it being in the hot seat, I know it’s \[unclear\] in front of this,
<br />ah, you know, the exact opposite of Abraham, the fact that we have raise birds is a sign of
<br />failure on the DLNR Department, why aren’t we working on habitat, this is, this is, this is what
<br />we were talking about. We passed the law in the state constitution – these game animals have
<br />rights – they are entitled to quality habitat, and the fact that we have to supply animals let’s us
<br />know that their quality habitat is wrong and I know the survival rate for release captivity birds is
<br />extremely low, we’re basically just feeding cats and mongooses and stuff like that and, you
<br />guys have opened the door, you guys have gone in there on Mauna Kea, you’ve mowed things
<br />that these areas could be turned into food plots, we’re going in there, you guys are clearing out
<br />along the roads – we could go just in there so we’ve got a higher survival rate on the birds, like
<br />you think, just bandaids is just throwing the birds out there and say look at what a good job
<br />we’re doing instead of saying – ‘cause I’ve been out there years ago, when I go up there and,
<br />\[unclear\] two-mile stretch, there’s more birds then we can shoot and now I go to that same 2-
<br />mile stretch and I’m lucky if I see \[unclear\], we have an issue with quality habitat and stuff and I
<br />know, we’ve got, you know, the native species and blah, blah, blah and, it’s the same thing, you
<br />know, release the mouflon in Mauna Kea – get the grass down – it’ll improve the bird habitat.
<br />Keep the fire down, protect the things, put water is where the animals can access it, half the
<br />problem is like I said I almost hit a sheep coming through PTA going bird hunting cause it was
<br />right at daylight and there was water on the road and there were like five of ‘em and one was
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