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AA: No, he’s talking about Piha – where we can draft that into a different letter, right? So, let’s finish <br />off this one and then we can make a motion for the Piha for the one you discussing ‘cause the <br />one where what you’re discussing that wasn’t on the agenda today and… <br />BL: OK. <br /> <br />LT: Yeah, Leomana, District – 3. Um, my opinions about this is that easy access for kids, for starting <br />people who just get into hunting or hiking or any outdoors activity – I take my kids hiking and <br />their friends who don’t go out avidly, they need a someplace safe to park the cars not too far, <br />right, a lot of people don’t really run or hike so when you start off in hunting, hiking and <br />gathering or any outdoor activity, it’s always safe to have these kind of areas that we’re talking <br />about right now so, these are easy access for kupunas, for families, and for people who are just <br />starting out, and like, for me I didn’t ask for it – I don’t go to these areas – I save this for the <br />families ‘cause I like to go out and go like you go so it’s important for me to keep these areas <br />open ‘cause more people in my areas makes a dangerous situation for all of us so, I support the <br />opposition of this thing. <br /> <br />?: Fencing \[unclear\]. <br /> <br />SW: Can I get clarity on what fencing this letter is opposing specially? <br /> <br />AA: Buffer zone, south boundary. <br /> <br />RD: Duerr, District – 1. Abraham, where is this? <br /> <br />AA: This is, ah, pretty much all the way up on the top of Stainback just past, or right below that <br />cattle guard just past the Kulani, um, Kulani Correctional Facility, um, main gate. And if you go <br />far up like for me to complete – complete walk around that thing the fastest I’ve done it is like in <br />an hour but that’s usually like a four-hour hunt. Just depends like where you catch one animal or <br />something then your time varies. It’s a very simple, easy hunt that I took my kids out when they <br />were five years old, you know, so, that’s how my boys were there, up there, in that forest <br />reserve, in that hunting area. <br /> <br />RD: Abraham, Duerr, District – 1, again. So fencing means eradication? <br /> <br />AA: Fencing means eradication, yes. <br /> <br />RD: I think we need to come down hard on this. <br /> <br />AA: Thanks. <br /> <br />SW: So, the purpose of the fencing, is eradication? <br /> <br />AA: Yeah. Eradication and \[unclear\] to protect the forest what they say… <br /> <br />?: And to protect our watershed \[unclear\]. <br /> <br />SW: I’m just clarifying… <br /> <br />26 <br /> <br /> <br />