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<br />AA: I guess that’s where DAR or maybe even the Kohala Center like come in like that Commissioner <br />Duerr said – that’s where the science comes in… <br /> <br />AG: Right. We definitely need more science… <br /> <br />RD: Right, and I think, Austin’s report will bring that issue forward of like it’s not a perfect report – <br />it’s not a perfect understanding but there’s a need, there’s a need here. <br /> <br />AG: Right… <br /> <br />AA: So that’s why we giving them the two options as of this part which bring them to light, right, so <br />you can put it in your… <br /> <br />AG: And as of like lobster sales – to me it eliminates traditional practices because you’re paying <br />someone to bring you lobster. First it’s the Kupuna teaching youth – the dive lobster to provide <br />for the family \[unclear\] habit of buying it – then they’re not the traditional practices kinda fading <br />– they’re not gonna \[unclear\] anymore and buying lobster is like if you’re gonna sell it it’s an <br />incentive to just take… <br /> <br />LT: Take, yeah, a lot… <br /> <br />AG: Not manage… You’re just gonna – whatever – you jump in the water whatever you see spear <br />‘em, grab ‘em you going sell ‘em. And if it’s black market on the side of the road or something – <br />they just doing \[unclear\] a bunch of people they going sell to – they’re not gonna stop and say, <br />eh, this one gets eggs – they going buy ‘em anyways, you know… <br /> <br />AA: Right, right. So once we go, once you go into the bag limit taking only 10 you’re already gonna <br />kinda eliminate that sale, right, because it’s not gonna be worth it if you only harvesting 10. <br /> <br />AG: Right. <br /> <br />AA: So what you going make? $200 bucks? <br /> <br />AG: But they guys that gonna sell could illegally dive and take hundred lobsters and be like oh I had <br />like six dives I would need that night and it coulda been only one guy. So that means he would <br />have to be enforced a lot heavier… <br /> <br />AA: Yeah, I think going have to be the DOCARE agent as well, like you say… Where’s your proof that <br />you have… <br /> <br />?: \[Unclear\] guys… <br /> <br />AA: Guys – where’s their permit to take or whatever, right, I mean, lobster you don’t have a permit <br />to take but… <br /> <br />18 <br /> <br /> <br />