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we did have a little discussion about drinking water units away from roads, kind of <br />hopefully entice animals to go there. <br />BL: Curiosity is there any statistics on how many goats gets hit? Those are rarely, in my <br />personal opinion, I rarely see goats they seem to be more - little bit more intelligent <br />than mouflon sheep and the pigs are the ones that create the most traffic along side of <br />the road. Is there any statistics? <br /> <br />KS: I don’t know, but I do know that the dept. of transportation does respond to road kills <br />and remove those carcasses from the roadside. They are putting together those numbers <br />for us, I just haven’t seen them yet. I know that that exists but, I don’t have it yet. <br />BL: If the department of transportation is doing that is there some way you can find out where <br />these high impact areas are? Maybe you guys do limited fencing along these high impact <br />corridors? Instead of fencing everything out. <br />KS: Yeah, that’s another option for sure, and something we can look into as I present the <br />information to us. For us we are not trying to fence everything. We are trying kind of like <br />those are the areas that are high crossing areas. And there are also areas that our agency <br />has responsibility for. It’s easy for us to be able to do the work there. But yeah, I know <br />that is a suggestion that we can look in, that is the location where most of the strikes are <br />and kind of focus there. Good questions and that is our intentions. <br />AA: Stanley again comments 3 minutes, go ahead. <br />SW: I asked him to unmute. <br />AA: Stanley, go ahead. <br />SM: Okay, my opinion if we put more pressure in our public lands, we are going push the <br />animals more into private lands. I think the way to go is to try and get the private <br />landowners to give permission for hunters and DLNR would oversee this. As far as animals <br />on the highway you have it from the old saddle road to the new saddle road, lots of goats <br />and pigs there. As far as from the new saddle road to Kona, you’ll see maybe one nanny <br />with couple kids here and there, some mules on the road. You don’t see, except for the <br />area around Pu’ulani ranch you don’t see too much in the hunt area you don’t see too <br />much bids animals. You can tell from see the mess on the highway. I don’t think there’s <br />problem with the animals in the public area. That’s my opinion. <br />AA: Thanks Stanley. So that was a good kind of questions. Kanalu what is the, how many <br />animals are you guys getting coming onto the road in the public hunting areas verse the <br />private areas? Where is the actual problem, is it more State land or is it more private? <br />KS: You know good question. So, we have done a couple of roadside surveys. That <br />something that I started to implement just to try recordings exactly what you’re saying. <br />I didn’t - I haven’t quantified it yet, but I can say from what we are seeing where most of <br />the areas we see goats alongside the road. Kind of main hot spots are going to be <br />Keamoku by the old saddle road junction with highway 190 and that corner down there <br />22 <br /> <br /> <br />