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AA: Yeah, thanks… <br /> <br />RD: Ah, yeah, Duerr, District – 1. Ah, yeah, Kanalu, the Blackmar/Vitousek study in 2000 – grazing, <br />can help prevent – is a plus and a minus. Is that applicable in the palila habitat? <br /> <br />KS: Is it applicable in the palila habitat? <br /> <br />RD: Yes, is Vitousek’s – the Blackmore/Vitousek’s report applicable in the palila habitat. <br /> <br />KS: I do know that we are exploring, contracting goat grazing for fuel or reductions along DKI. I’ve <br />gotten some quotes for that, so I think some of it is applicable. I’m not sure all of it is, and we <br />are trying to see if how we can use it. So, yeah, so like I’ve been exploring using Mark Crivello <br />and his goat grazing to graze along DKI between critical habitat and the highway, so I think there <br />are some applications, yes… <br /> <br />RD: Do you have risk assessments for fire in palila habitat? Do you have a head along what could <br />happen and when it will happen, if it will happen? <br /> <br />KS: I know we have a Mauna Kea Fire Management Plan. I’m not sure that a risk assessment in that <br />plan, again that would be a question for Don. <br /> <br />RD: OK. Yeah, moving over. So, 4,000 acres of land will be fenced. Do you have a cost per acre for <br />fencing? <br /> <br />KS: I don’t off the top of my head. I know our project manager out there – Edith – would have a lot <br />of that and I can try to get that to you – I can email you something kind of general – what we <br />spent so far at least. <br /> <br />RD: Yeah. And that goes – are there records – is there a log on how much land is fenced and what <br />the cost for that land being fenced is? <br /> <br />KS: If it’s just the fencing, yeah, I’m sure Edith has all of that. <br /> <br />RD: OK, so, and who would that contact be? <br /> <br />KS: Her name is Edith Atkins, but I can ask her those questions and send it to you. <br /> <br />RD: OK, great. And then finally – on the herbicide applications – have you – do you keep logs on the <br />applicators and the usage and what herbicides are being used? <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, absolutely, and so, that’s another question for Edith. In general, as far as herbicides – I <br />don’t know all of them – I guess it’s mostly Roundup, Garland, maybe some, ah, what’s that one <br />– it starts with a P… I forget – those are kind of the main ones we use, though, but I can be more <br />specific, and I can get that information from Edith for you. <br /> <br />RD: OK, OK, great. Thank you very much. <br /> <br />KS: Yeah, no problem. <br />11 <br /> <br /> <br />