2023-11-21 Merit Appeals Board Minutes

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Merit Appeals Board November 21, 2023 So, I do want to engage the entire staff of the department with you—more than just me, on their behalf. So, going forward, we'll work on that. CHR. CABANAS: Very good. And they're always free to come to the meetings—maybe not the entire staff but you could always assign a few to come and sit in. Because whatever they learn from our meetings, it's important especially if someday down the road—hopefully not— but otbut should there be an appeal in their area, they pretty much know they feel more comfortable coming before the Board, especially in an appeal hearing where they have to testify, yeah. So, it could be any recruitment matter, classification matter, or any other matter that MAB has jurisdiction over. So, yeah. MR. KUNZ: I have a quick recommendation. I think—well, Gabe and Gay were both members of the Workforce Investment Board or at least participated with the board—it's just part of the County and oversaw projects of mine at the Department of Labor. So, in my office, whenever we had those board meetings, I would drag one staff with me just to experience the meeting. Now, granted, there was lunch also, but that way they could—all of them could see what it is that the manager does, what we're reporting on for the training programs and stuff. So, that might be one way that you can get everybody quick exposure. MS. MATHEWS: (Inaudible.) CHR. CABANAS: That's a good point because I worked under so many directors during the 35 -plus years I was with your department. And each director had his or her management style so, for a few directors I attended the MAB meetings back in the office, especially for Mr. Luke and Mike Ben. Well, Mike Ben was our director for 17 yearsa very long time, but he included me and that helped me because when it came time to even share some knowledge with our Board about the history of the department or the Board—being that I was, like, the last long-time employee in the department when I retired, I have that knowledge and history. So, even for the Board and the department, I memorialized the things that were significant for the Recruitment and Exam. Division—so it would help you or anyone else down the road knowing a little bit about the history. So, yeah. So, that you can—if they're busy, it's understandable. But when can yeah, include some—one or two. MS. TOKIHIRO: Yeah. I appreciate the suggestions and we'll definitely, take that into account as we figure out how we're going to do this going forward. CHR. CABANAS: Keep in mind that this Board is really a very caring, compassionate Board. So, we ask a lot of questions and it's not to micro -manage, but it's to get an understanding of what's happening with the department. Sometimes we give cera few suggestions, but it's just to understand what's going on and then you can ask us as well. So, it becomes a two-way exchange. Page 9