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way down to the highway – the old highway to Kona – there’s no landscaping there – so I don’t <br />know what they’re talking about as far as landscaping. There’s no real agriculture in that area <br />too – livestock, you know, cause PTA – state land – there’s nothing there. Only when you get <br />down to Waikoloa on the bottom side you going see some Ag land down there – but even there <br />– \[unclear\] do false grazing – cattle’s there and \[unclear\]. And that’s all gonna be developed, I <br />guess, eventually. OK. So maybe landscaping in that area, um, so it’s not a big problem, um, we <br />have a farm – my family has a farm – we don’t have problems with sheep and goat or if we do <br />we eat them. That’s our solution, yeah, I mean honestly that’s what we do. Um, the big problem <br />for us on our farm is Nene. We can’t do anything about Nene. They just wiped out a whole field <br />of Chinese cabbage so if their kimchi price goes up – blame the Nene. That’s what’s happening. <br />\[Unclear\] we plant the field times. Imagine the cost of that, so, we aren’t harvesting any Chinese <br />cabbage for the next 3 or 4 weeks. None at all. And that’s only the tip of the problem because <br />the Nene are starting to nest there and so now what’s gonna happen. It’s a nesting \[unclear\]. So, <br />you know, there needs to be other solutions where they can relocate animals whether it’s native <br />or non-native, um, they need to relocate them to more remote areas. There’s always gonna be <br />conflict, I mean, you know, I work with, um, they, ah, with NOAA for a little while and they were <br />talking about relocating monk seals to the main island, right, and I thinking but why would you <br />do that. Monk seals say that I’d rather live up there where there’s no humans but bring ‘em here <br />for what? For the tourists? For the tourists to see them. So, we need to relocate these animals <br />somewhere, ah, so that we can avoid conflict. They talked about trapping programs too. Trap <br />animals and I don’t know whether to \[unclear\] or destroy them or whatever, OK? But it’s a big <br />problem, I guess, let’s see – rules and highways. One of the things that they wanted to do – that <br />I agreed with is they need to keep the vegetation down along the roadsides – so they talked <br />about this ten-years zero vegetation zone. Um, I think that’s a good idea – that’s probably within <br />the responsibility of County and State road crews that go out and mow all the time, um, I know <br />there was some issue with use of Roundup but they use it all over in Puuwaawaa. You see the <br />big \[unclear\] that’s all Roundup that’s not guys pulling the weeds out or going out with weed <br />eaters – they’re using Roundup, um, sorry, I don’t know, I got issue – there’s issue with Roundup <br />but, ah, there’s ways that they can do it, you know, without chemicals, um, but, you know, even <br />if you do that and you reduce the fire risk, you reduce some of the road hazards you still gonna <br />get a few animals that want to cross the road. I mean, they’re gonna see the green grass on the <br />side of the road – they’re gonna cross it. Um, they talked about replacing rumble strips because <br />it collects water and the animals come out to drink water after the rain. Um, yeah, that happens, <br />but, ah, I don’t know how you going get the state or – I don’t know who owns the highway – <br />Daniel K is state highway? Yeah. So, the state would have to come up with the money to cover <br />the little grooves and they want to put bumps out instead. Maybe down the road on the new <br />highway but I don’t know who they’re gonna do it on the old highway and then the fencing was <br />the other one. They talk about fencing, I guess, both sides of the highway all the way down from <br />Hawaiian Homes all the way down. So you look on the mauka side – the Mauna Kea side you <br />going get one, two, three fence lines so you keep the hunting area and then another fence line <br />on the other side – very high costs – it’s gonna take years to do – years of maintenance – never <br />gonna end, um, they want to build bridges, I guess, so that animals can either cross or – so I <br />don’t know – it’s a big undertaking – they get millions and talk about millions and millions of <br />dollars for fencing and, you know, all you need is one smart goat that’ll climb over the fence and <br />that’s it \[unclear\] so, in conclusion I asked or I made a few recommendations because I <br />don’t want to just be shooting down their ideas and telling them this isn’t gonna work or, cause <br />every solution has flaws no matter what so, I told them we cannot be waiting two or three years <br />for funding to be approved and then for construction to be completed – in the meantime cars <br />12 <br /> <br /> <br />