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KK: OK. Hey, there, yeah, no, um, I actually, it’s actually gonna be several comments – I hope it
<br />doesn’t take up too much time but it has to do with Alan’s coverage of the, oh, hang on, let me
<br />start my video. Um, there we go, it’s back on again. OK. Sorry about that. Yeah, um, I was kind of
<br />\[unclear\] and told to be on that committee as well. Ah, Regina was, I guess kind of taking it over
<br />and then she moved to Maui with the Lahaina fires and I guess I kinda slipped into her position, I
<br />guess, that’s vice chair, so I don’t understand Omick and me or whatever, ah, but I was taking
<br />notes along Alan’s presentation and, um, there are several things that came up and if it would
<br />be OK if I just kinda comment on several of those?
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<br />AA: Sure.
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<br />KK: OK. So, I guess the first thing, yes, I agree with Alan – the question that I also had was how did
<br />they do the methodology of the population estimates and how accurate and verifiable are they?
<br />I don’t know and that, that question wasn’t really answered, um, I don’t know who’s doing the
<br />population studies there, um, I kinda was concerned when you look at the numbers but I’m
<br />curious what the methodology was – does it need to be updated – is it truly reflective of what
<br />other people are seeing out there like Alan’s saying. So that’s one thing, um, the second thing
<br />was as far as archery – Mark just informed me that the Waikele Forest Reserve is open for
<br />archery – there’s some goats there – but it’s I guess mainly for pigs – so there is archery there as
<br />well as dog and knife so if we’re wrong on that, you know, feel free to correct.
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<br />AA: Abraham, District – 5. Yeah, so Waikele is archery. I think there’s – Mark is right – there’s kinda
<br />goats more up in the upper elevations like behind Fern Forest and…
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<br />KK: Yeah.
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<br />AA: ….and I think maybe down Kalapana get that one real small herd. Other than that – all the lower
<br />Puna areas is all, um, archery, dog, knife kind of deal. No…
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<br />KK: OK. Yeah.
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<br />AA: Yeah.
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<br />KK: So I just wanted to point that out, again, I don’t know but Mark was over here telling me there’s
<br />a couple other places – just as an aside, um, I guess the other issue when I was attending this
<br />meetings was, again, we need to know what is the carrying capacity for these different areas
<br />and the point that I was trying to make with this Commission is, yes, it does feel to me to be
<br />DLNR driven when the mandate seemed to be more community-driven with BISC \[sp?\] and all
<br />the other groups in there and DLNR put together a nice report, however, it seemed to have only
<br />addressed DLNR’s goals and my impression was that DLNR will take care of DLNR and not do
<br />anything about anybody else because that’s not their mission. And that was a little bit
<br />frustrating and so I basically suggested that along that corridor where the problems are, um,
<br />taking representatives from each of the land holders there: Parker Ranch, PTA, and Hawaiian
<br />Homes and together have those group of people work on solutions to deal with the car strikes
<br />and be together in on the same page, because if people are doing different things and
<br />somebody’s not doing anything you’re just gonna move those animals around and there needs
<br />to be a more cohesive panel and, um, ah, DLNR said that’s not our jurisdiction and I’m like well
<br />you guys kinda play a role too and are part of the land owner so I think we needed like a
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